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01-04-2016 , 09:24 PM

#21601

vixticator

clutch

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 117,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

itt we learn there are protectionist, interventionist Libertarians.

Who knew?

01-04-2016 , 09:27 PM

#21602

ccotenj

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 2,073

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

itt we learn there are protectionist, interventionist Libertarians.

to be fair, the libertarians have always seemed a bit confused about what they really would like to do.

01-04-2016 , 09:33 PM

#21603

ChrisV

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

There are Republicans like myself that don't like nafta and such

I'm libertarian enough that I could become a Democrat but it's mostly that I think we spend too much on social programs, I'm against Obama care, I'm in favor of ground troops against isis, I believe in tax cuts on businesses and capital gains, I'm pro Israel and even the Jewish democrats obviously aren't, I'm in favor of limiting middle east immigration, I'm not for a path to citizenship for illegals, I'm pro death penalty, I'm pro police, etc etc

So I agree with the dems on tariffs and Marijuana. That means I should be a dem I guess Matthew

Cutting taxes and social programs and legalising marijuana are mainstream conservative positions (over a third of Republicans support legalization and that is climbing rapidly as the olds die off). There's nothing in your beliefs that is counter to conservatism and a hell of a lot that is diametrically opposed to libertarianism (foreign intervention, limiting immigration, death penalty, pro-police, protectionism).

01-04-2016 , 09:34 PM

#21604

+rep_lol

banned

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGrindisReal

the only difference I see between Thayer and Gnarly is # of posts itt. Unbelievable how Thayer's personal views on Trump, & people actually debating with him at great length on stuff like why Trump's call to ban Muslims is bad, have completely hijacked the thread

I feel like the liberals itt would debate a KKK member for days on why civil rights are a good thing and why slavery is bad... etc. Just an insatiable desire to argue with people who are not going to change their views on super bigoted stuff.

Thayer still being addressed and treated like an adult at this stage is beyond me. He is like an ikes but worse as far as this specific thread is concerned

whatever, i got some of his free money

01-04-2016 , 09:37 PM

#21605

+rep_lol

banned

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yakmelk

How did I just call this place ? I'm not going to entertain the kneejerkers in here, that would be a true waste of my time, I just replied to this topic as an observer. You can go back and reread it with your objective glasses on if you like. A lot of you guys keep thinking that you're never wrong especially if you dislike the poster that is making the arguments. The ikes discussion about confiscation of arms was a great example of it over in that other thread, Im wondering how much of the people that got owned there were aware of it and how many really thought they were on the right side of things (ftr, ikes argument as a whole was terrible but he was right on that specific point).

you shouldnt be allowed to post in this forum after your performance in the OOT skateboarding thread

like seriously that was some all-time worst performance in the history of the internet type ****

01-04-2016 , 09:38 PM

#21606

ChrisV

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Yeah, nobody willing to prop bet and who is actually going to pay should ever be banned imo. Would be counter to the spirit of this site.

01-04-2016 , 09:39 PM

#21607

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,090

Jill Colvin ‏@colvinj 12m12 minutes ago
Trump says he wants to remain unpredictable on ISIS, wants to "surprise them one night at about 11:30 when it’s dark” to take their oil.

01-04-2016 , 09:42 PM

#21608

+rep_lol

banned

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rococo

I also am completely flummoxed by the idea that it is OK to support Trump because his apparent racism is not sincere. Suppose that's true. Saying a bunch of racist stuff just to get elected is pretty odious. How could anyone support a candidate who would overtly fan racist sentiment just to win an election?

easily, because they're racists who aren't bothered by racism and rather view it as sound politicking

01-04-2016 , 09:46 PM

#21609

ikestoys

banned

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Do you consider Toyotas Japanese and Fords American? That's pretty cute.

While the distinction isn't as bipolar as many consider, saying they're the same because of X% of the assembly/parts happened in the USA is really dumb too. There's a lot more that goes into building cars than just physically putting them together and that cash made from selling the cars goes to different places.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

itt we learn there are protectionist, interventionist Libertarians.

LOL wp

01-04-2016 , 09:54 PM

#21610

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100,710

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Jill Colvin ‏@colvinj 12m12 minutes ago
Trump says he wants to remain unpredictable on ISIS, wants to "surprise them one night at about 11:30 when it’s dark” to take their oil.

I relish the thought of Rand Paul crying into his beer wondering how all of his father's supporters have gravitated to this guy.

01-04-2016 , 10:05 PM

#21611

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

My idiocy is limited only by your imagination.

01-04-2016 , 10:10 PM

#21612

ccotenj

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Jill Colvin ‏@colvinj 12m12 minutes ago
Trump says he wants to remain unpredictable on ISIS, wants to "surprise them one night at about 11:30 when it’s dark” to take their oil.

this whole "take their oil" stuff is just beyond stupid. wtf, are we just gonna bomb the **** outta them and make syria the 51st state in the union??? turn the country into a police state controlled by us? leave the military there to defend the oil fields in perpetuity? what exactly is the end game here? will somebody in the media PLEASE ask donald how he plans on "taking their oil"? just once?

plus, if we are going to start unilaterally making other countries be part of the usa, there are a helluva lot better choices than syria.

01-04-2016 , 10:12 PM

#21613

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,090

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I relish the thought of Rand Paul crying into his beer wondering how all of his father's supporters have gravitated to this guy.

When you see quotes like that it makes me wonder if Trump is literally a child. He's Benjamin Buttoning or something. "I'll attack ISIS after bedtime and take their stuff" is not some neurolinguistic hypnosis trick, it's how a child thinks about the world.

01-04-2016 , 10:13 PM

#21614

metsandfinsfan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Says the libertarian about the most isolationist candidate in the field. Or are you an anti-welfare but not isolationist libertarian?

It's almost like policy doesn't matter, only feelings. In fact the same group who swooned over Ron Paul in 2012 is now swooning over the guy who wants to implement sweeping draconian unconstitutional govt powers (but not really - wink).

Hard to imagine what the subconscious common thread could be between Donald Trump and Ron Paul. DEFINITELY NOT RACISM THOUGH.

I'm not at all isolationist. I don't like rand

01-04-2016 , 10:14 PM

#21615

metsandfinsfan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Do you consider Toyotas Japanese and Fords American? That's pretty cute.

I do.

01-04-2016 , 10:15 PM

#21616

metsandfinsfan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Hence I'm a Republican. Idgaf about labels but well named asked why I wasn't a dem

01-04-2016 , 10:17 PM

#21617

ikestoys

banned

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

My idiocy is limited only by your imagination.

uhhhhh you think i characterized your position unfairly? lol seems pretty spot on

01-04-2016 , 10:21 PM

#21618

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

uhhhhh you think i characterized your position unfairly? lol seems pretty spot on

Feel free to quote me where I forgot the economic impact of the sale of a given F-150 on the dividends paid out by F shares and the ensuing economic stimulus.

01-04-2016 , 10:27 PM

#21619

ikestoys

banned

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Feel free to quote me where I forgot the economic impact of the sale of a given F-150 on the dividends paid out by F shares and the ensuing economic stimulus.

you just made fun of as classifying toyota as japanese and ford as american. That's largely correct.

01-04-2016 , 11:11 PM

#21620

Lilu7

Made 2+2 Great Again

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 2,123

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikestoys

you just made fun of as classifying toyota as japanese and ford as american. That's largely correct.

The reason he did that was within economic context of "Buy American!"
Try to follow along pls

01-04-2016 , 11:14 PM

#21621

[Phill]

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

You listed literally there libertarian beliefs two of which are just mainstream conservative positions.

I am more libertarian than you. Not even close either it seems.

01-04-2016 , 11:19 PM

#21622

[Phill]

Carpal \'Tunnel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ccotenj

The bigger point is Isis doesn't really have oil. They stole oil via plunder and we condemned them for it. So stealing it by plunder from them doesn't make us moral, it had to be given back to the original owners.

Its like a police force finding the guy who burgled you and keeping your tv to reward himself for the effort.