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Who Will Be The 2016 Republican Nominee? (It's Donald Trump) Who Will Be The 2016 Republican Nominee? (It's Donald Trump)

03-06-2016 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by baseball
I think you underestimate more than half of conservatives who do not support Trump. The idea we are supposed to roll over and embrace Trump dogma because of....party unity and elections?
No. Don't pretend embracing Trump is something you're above. Get the **** outta here with that ****. You built up these idiots for a generation, pilfering their votes and aggrandizing their derp champions like Trump and Drudge and Limbaugh over and over again. Remember that time Trump spent two years Birthering and Romney slobbered all over him about how proud he was to have his endorsement?

No one forgot this:



Time to pay the piper. You built this. For real this time though. You lionized all these idiot brigades for a generation and now they've come to wrest control from you, and you're going to have to give them one this time in 2016 or else they're going to burn your convention down to the ground. And that's only partly figurative and only partly colorful embellishment, like you can't rule out that literally happening yo.
03-06-2016 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BigPoppa
NFW the Powers That Be are doing anything to lessen their own power, much less something that would destroy their hope of ever regaining power, based on "it's the right thing to do".
Totally this
03-06-2016 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by daca
Nice political party though. Somehow the only guy with a real chance against Trump is the one even worse than him.
So much this. ****ing Republicans
03-06-2016 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
No. Don't pretend embracing Trump is something you're above. Get the **** outta here with that ****. You built up these idiots for a generation, pilfering their votes and aggrandizing their derp champions like Trump and Drudge and Limbaugh over and over again. Remember that time Trump spent two years Birthering and Romney slobbered all over him about how proud he was to have his endorsement?

No one forgot this:



Time to pay the piper. You built this. For real this time though. You lionized all these idiot brigades for a generation and now they've come to wrest control from you, and you're going to have to give them one this time in 2016 or else they're going to burn your convention down to the ground. And that's only partly figurative and only partly colorful embellishment, like you can't rule out that literally happening yo.

03-06-2016 , 03:12 PM
Damn it I need a monocle I am completely sympathetic to the " you built this" argument here we are no need to ride it to its ugly conclusion. .
03-06-2016 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Two lessons that the GOP needs to push for in future:

1. Every voter must have at least 1 monocle, 1 Victorian era or before top hat, and must show up to vote in at least a morning coat or better.
2. Limit early voting (primaries) to none at all, all voters must present themselves formally with a notarized affidavit affirming their identity and fidelity to the One True Republican Party in Mitt Romney's backyard at least 48 hours before voting begins in Mitt Romney's basement

Only then can we succeed.
Giving everyone who wants it a vote in who should run your party is dumb anyway. It's how Labour ended up with Corbyn and now probably have to spend the next 4 years just waiting for him to lose. Stuff like this cant be trusted to the rabble.
03-06-2016 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by daca
Letting everyone who wants it a vote in who should run your party is dumb anyway. It's how Labour ended up with Corbyn and now probably have to spend the next 4 years just waiting for him to lose. Stuff like this cant be trusted to the rabble.
I'm not arguing the GOP should move to fully open primaries everywhere but you have to admit it's probably kind of troubling for the future of the party when the reflexive, go-to-move -- once they recognize hardly anyone wants to vote for their dog **** candidates -- it isn't serious self-reflection and introspection about how to be better or more appealing but various hairbrained schemes to disenfranchise ever more people or to make voting as inconvenient as possible.
03-06-2016 , 03:22 PM
For little Marco

Spoiler:
03-06-2016 , 03:24 PM
This is just #twitterrandoms, but I mean, look at this ****:

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Josh Jordan
‏@NumbersMuncher

Two lessons that the GOP needs to push for in future:
1. Closed primaries. No exceptions.
2. Limit early voting (primaries) to a few days.
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Drema White ‏@DremaWhite 7h7 hours ago

@NumbersMuncher @hereistheanswer You forgot one, photo voter id!!!
Wait, wat? In the midst of the GOP collective stroke/freak out over Trump, I think they're breaking kayfabe here. "Voter IDs" are the solution to the grave threat of illegal immigrant fraud voting, but you can tell the right-wing lizard brain collective here is totally in on the joke. Voter IDs don't have **** to do with illegal immigrants voting, by their own admission it's just their magical wizards tool for making the bad voters go away.
03-06-2016 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by esad
For little Marco

Spoiler:
perfect
03-06-2016 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by goofball
Yeah you guys are all on the same page as me: after last night it's time to start thinking seriously about a contested convention. How many qualitatively different scenarios are we talking about?

1) TRUMP is clearly the will of the voters but doesn't have a majority (e.g. TRUMP/Cruz/Other are 45/25/20)
2) TRUMP and cruz with no clear rival (40/38/22)
3) TRUMP and cruz one other viable (35/35/25/5 for trump/cruz/otherviable/therest.

Anything else?
Answer:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
03-06-2016 , 03:27 PM
Building narratives from random tweets is easy but come on dude.
03-06-2016 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
This is just #twitterrandoms, but I mean, look at this ****:





Wait, wat? In the midst of the GOP collective stroke/freak out over Trump, I think they're breaking kayfabe here. "Voter IDs" are the solution to the grave threat of illegal immigrant fraud voting, but you can tell the right-wing lizard brain collective here is totally in on the joke. Voter IDs don't have **** to do with illegal immigrants voting, by their own admission it's just their magical wizards tool for making the bad voters go away.
Citing some person on twitter with <1k followers as what now? Brian from mgoblog would have your ass for that.
03-06-2016 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
No. Don't pretend embracing Trump is something you're above. Get the **** outta here with that ****. You built up these idiots for a generation, pilfering their votes and aggrandizing their derp champions like Trump and Drudge and Limbaugh over and over again. Remember that time Trump spent two years Birthering and Romney slobbered all over him about how proud he was to have his endorsement?

No one forgot this:



Time to pay the piper. You built this. For real this time though. You lionized all these idiot brigades for a generation and now they've come to wrest control from you, and you're going to have to give them one this time in 2016 or else they're going to burn your convention down to the ground. And that's only partly figurative and only partly colorful embellishment, like you can't rule out that literally happening yo.

Shots fired!


03-06-2016 , 03:33 PM
I changed my avatar. Although I agree with Trump on most things, I do not support his position on torture. To support and vote for Trump, is no different than supporting torture yourself. Violence supersedes robbery. There was a show on Forensic Files today about a case of 9 monks being killed in Arizona. A man mentally ill, said he was involved and name 4 accomplices. They all confessed after torture. Another man confessed to a different murder after torture, and convicted.

A police officer stopped a car, and found a rifle. It sat at the police office for months. But it was eventually tested. It matched the bullet of the crime scene. 2 kids were found to be responsible and found guilty after additional evidence. During the conviction, one of the guys said he did the other murder for $20 of the man that was convicted.

In summary, torture does not work. Thus I support Rubio.

The wildlife refuge the Bundy's took over is presently own by everyone with thousands and sometimes millions visiting these wildlife refuges a year. As a citizen of the United States you are welcome to hunt and fish on the refuges without paying a fee or asking permission from the land owner. The land may also be used for cattle ranching with a permit, you can even get a pole permit in areas. You can even build homes in certain areas. Why take the land away from millions to enrich a few ranchers. You can fish on virtually 100% of public lands, even in Yellowstone.

Last edited by steelhouse; 03-06-2016 at 03:54 PM.
03-06-2016 , 03:35 PM
George Will just made a comment about Trump supporters, "You can not reason out of what not was reasoned into."
03-06-2016 , 03:35 PM
lol STEEEELHOUSE
03-06-2016 , 03:44 PM
Trump lost Steelhouse. Meltdown imminent.
03-06-2016 , 03:46 PM
I can confidently say that no democrat wants your vote Steelhouse.
03-06-2016 , 03:49 PM
Will just pimped closing the primaries so feel free to build narratives ariund this thought. Money used to be the way the party controlled the masses but it is so easy to fundraise these days other measures might be neccessary.
03-06-2016 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
I agree with you and stopping Trump probably means losing power for the party. It is quite possible that rallying around him makes sense for individual political careers and some special interests. I hope the powers that be put that aside and do the right thing. Any politician that rallies around Trump because he is the nominee with some weak ass "we must stop Hillary" argument will not get my support in the future. Let the damn party burn down.
Letting the party burn down would likely not turn out how you think it would.

You might be surprised how little support there is for a 0% capital gains tax.

I think you have to let the Trump process play out and just hope he loses. I guess if you think the fate of humanity is at risk, that can be a tough proposition or calculated risk to make, but just ****ing over 35% of the voters is likely not going to end well.
03-06-2016 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
George Will just made a comment about Trump supporters, "You can not reason out of what not was reasoned into."
Just to tie the whole world together, George Will also said today that all primaries should be closed.
03-06-2016 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
No. Don't pretend embracing Trump is something you're above. Get the **** outta here with that ****. You built up these idiots for a generation, pilfering their votes and aggrandizing their derp champions like Trump and Drudge and Limbaugh over and over again.

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The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.

When you say "generations", you invite this argument. No one denies the pandering, but this block of voters have existed for like our entire history and both sides have pandered to them. Do I really need to say Clinton pandered to homophobics?

Interestingly enough, you are arguing against people who want to end the pandering to racist, but can't help yourself to ridicule and castigate me for doing so. Bizarre.
03-06-2016 , 04:09 PM
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You might be surprised how little support there is for a 0% capital gains tax.
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It is the correct position.

1. Corporations are limited to profits, if they get too profitable (without monopoly) they will just get new competitors. Profits will drop to about 3% of revenues. If you increase corporate tax, all you do is limit corporations and you get less jobs, profits will adjust to 3%.

2. Foreign entites do not pay this tax. Thus if you live in Singapore, New Zealand, you can buy the same stocks Apple, General Motors, John Deere, and if you pay zero capital gains tax. Bin Laden and everyone in the middle east paid no capital gains tax.

3. It is a rather complicated thing to fill out on your taxes.

4. Most capital gains are just inflation. If Clorox increases the price of bleach from $1 to $2, the revenues may double and profits double, and price double. The gain is just inflation.

Ending capital gains taxes is no brainer. It's use may be to prevent competitive currencies.
03-06-2016 , 04:10 PM
Wow, never imagined he'd lose the steelhouse vote.

      
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