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02-20-2016 , 11:43 PM

#28951

ChrisV

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Quote:

Originally Posted by domer2

I can guarantee you will have at least 5 new "sore loser" laws passed between now and November if he really tries this, if not many more.

Fair point.

02-20-2016 , 11:44 PM

#28952

DVaut1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Will TRUMP run third party?

One of my theories on the nomination has been that at a contested convention, TRUMP would threaten to run third-party if he is not given the nomination. I knew that filing deadlines in some states might have passed, but I expected TRUMP to run anyway, as a write-in candidate. Having looked into it more, the road for a third party TRUMP run is rockier than I thought.

Texas and South Dakota

According to Ballotpedia: Sore loser laws:

Clearly TRUMP is already seeking the GOP nomination, so this suggests he cannot run third party in TX or SD under any circumstances.

Nevada, Oklahoma and Georgia

These states PROHIBIT write in votes and have filing deadlines prior to the Republican Convention:

Event	Date
Nevada	July 8
Georgia	July 12
Oklahoma	July 15
RNC	July 18-21

Thus, unless TRUMP files as an independent prior to the convention, people will be unable to vote for him in these states.

North Carolina, Illinois, Indiana, New Mexico, Delaware, Florida, South Carolina, Michigan

All these states have filing deadlines prior to the conclusion of the Convention (Michigan is July 21, the last day of the convention). TRUMP would have to be a write-in candidate in these states.

TLDR

TRUMP is already blocked from running third-party in two states and if he goes to the convention seeking the GOP nomination, he will be blocked from three more. Worse, they are all states he would have hoped to win in a general election. But TRUMP is a narcissist and may choose to run anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by domer2

I can guarantee you will have at least 5 new "sore loser" laws passed between now and November if he really tries this, if not many more.

I don't know why we're even analyzing this. It's pretty obvious third party candidacies are completely hopeless due to the two party duopoly ballot access mumbo jumbo (*I realize TRUMP plays by no rules so I mean who knows, maybe 3rd party Trump wins by 101% somehow).

Trump runs third-party to troll the GOP, presumably for vindictive purposes. In that sense ballot access is almost irrelevant, he's just going to get in the debates and carpet bomb people or poop whatever random stuff pops into his head on twitter.

02-20-2016 , 11:44 PM

#28953

13ball

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Bro, your PM literally ****ed a pig.

McTrolled.

02-20-2016 , 11:56 PM

#28954

samsonh

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Ikes,

Are you happy??

02-20-2016 , 11:58 PM

#28955

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [Phill]

I know its gonna be hilarious when Ike's gets banned but seriously you guys the rest of the world is pretty appalled you might nominate Trump to go heads up for essentially the president of most of the world.

It doesn't help that when we look at the other main candidates we can't decide if they would be better or worse than Trump! It's mighty scary stuff that we know one of them will be heads up.

02-21-2016 , 12:30 AM

#28956

metsandfinsfan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by domer2

Rubio won 3 delegates tonight, thwarting Trump's sweep

edit: conflicting information on this...Rubio camp saying they won it, but others not so sure

It's too early to cap but even if true lol 3 delegates

02-21-2016 , 12:43 AM

#28957

pvn

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serious question, how do you even write-in a vote for president? Technically you're voting for electors, do you have to write in a name for each elector position the state has? I'm guessing most state election commissions just throw away write-ins anyway so they've never bothered to think about this.

02-21-2016 , 12:47 AM

#28958

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I assume in the case the write-in candidate wins, the election commission would contact the candidate and they would choose their electors.

02-21-2016 , 01:08 AM

#28959

pvn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by synth_floyd

I assume in the case the write-in candidate wins, the election commission would contact the candidate and they would choose their electors.

seems like a recipe for a lawsuit

02-21-2016 , 01:13 AM

#28960

ChrisV

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DVaut1

Yeah but I think it matters whether it's obvious to your average GOP voter that he's just trolling/sabotaging the GOP. Him not being on the ballot in like 15 states would make that pretty clear.

02-21-2016 , 01:14 AM

#28961

iron81

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Write in votes can count legitimately, whether they do so varies by state. In my state, you have to file papers before the election certifying that you are eligible to hold the office.

02-21-2016 , 01:45 AM

#28962

DeadMoneyWalking

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Originally Posted by LostOstrich

I'm IRATE because the POTUS is the most powerful position in the world and a significant % of the US electorate either don't realise or don't care how much damage Trump could do to the world if elected. Good to hear you're having fun though! Ignorance is bliss I guess!

Is it damage to twiddle ones thumbs while East Ukraine and Iraq get taken over by barbarians?

Quote:

Originally Posted by synth_floyd

I assume in the case the write-in candidate wins, the election commission would contact the candidate and they would choose their electors.

Good thing the one plausible write in man is easy to spell. Imagine the recount lawsuit over ballots with KAYSICK

02-21-2016 , 01:53 AM

#28963

BigPoppa

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Best troll would TRUMP going on TV every day for 6 weeks before the election telling his supporters not to vote at all.

Even a 2% reduction in GOP turnout flips a ton of carefully gerrymandered House seats.

02-21-2016 , 02:31 AM

#28964

CalledDownLight

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Met a TRUMP supporter tonight. Seemed like a very normal guy all night until a politics discussion broke out in the other room and his wife told him to quit the game we were playing and go join in. Turns out he is a ~30 year old bro who has never voted republican but likes TRUMP. Doesn't seem to fit the racist bill since his wife is MUSLIM and doesn't really check other boxes of being mad about the GOP or government since he said he thinks Obama has been a pretty good president but the two democrats are a socialist and an "uninspiring moderate" while all the other republicans are "crazy."

02-21-2016 , 02:47 AM

#28965

aoFrantic

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I'm on my phone but can someone please please post the Carson fb post. It's so perfect

02-21-2016 , 02:56 AM

#28966

Cuban B

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPoppa

I've wondered if he would be capable of this as well. If he really wanted to screw over the GOP, he could urge his supporters to do a protest vote and just sit this one out to punish the gop. Running a half ass'd third party doesn't hurt them down ballot, convincing some % of them to stay home might do some damage though.

02-21-2016 , 03:01 AM

#28967

napoleoninrags2

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PW 54/42/2/2

Cruz tied with Kasich

02-21-2016 , 03:18 AM

#28968

Cuban B

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

The one openly pro Trump supporter I've met IRL was a Samoan/Hawaiian looking 30 something bro at a poker table who seemed to align mostly with the badass alpha-ness of Trump or something.

Last edited by Cuban B; 02-21-2016 at 03:26 AM.

02-21-2016 , 03:23 AM

#28969

synth_floyd

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With only three states casting votes for the Republican presidential nomination, Dr. Ben Carson stands as one of only five candidates remaining of the original 17, and received as many delegates in South Carolina as all other candidates but the winner. Dr. Carson is humbled by the support and donations from hundreds of thousands across the country who look to him as their voice for change in a system that has left “We the People” behind. His consistent message of faith, integrity and common sense solutions has resonated with the people; he continues to be viewed more favorably than any other candidate and routinely polls as the most honest and sincere person in the race. And a poll out today confirmed he would beat Hillary Clinton in a head-to-head race.
"Thank you to my many supporters and volunteers in South Carolina and around the country,” said Dr. Carson. “While professional politicians have long written off our efforts to return the government to the people, we remain undaunted. We’ve barely finished the first inning, and there’s a lot of game left. I look forward to carrying on to the Nevada caucuses, sharing my message to “Heal, Inspire, and Revive” this great nation. As more Americans have their say, they will see the true strength of our movement."
- Larry Ross, Communications Director

It's a 5-way tie for 2nd place everybody!

02-21-2016 , 03:25 AM

#28970

simplicitus

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Ponied on FB post.

02-21-2016 , 04:10 AM

#28971

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The 17 saddest moments of Jeb Bush's campaign

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Jeb Bush launched his presidential campaign's exploratory committee on December 16, 2014, the presumptive Republican nominee. He ended his campaign on February 20, 2016, a broken man.

I hadn't heard of all of these, a lot are pretty hilarious

02-21-2016 , 04:50 AM

#28972

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuban B

The one openly pro Trump supporter I've met IRL was a Samoan/Hawaiian looking 30 something bro at a poker table who seemed to align mostly with the badass alpha-ness of Trump or something.

Aligning mostly with the badass alpha-ness of Trump summarises this election process beautifully.

02-21-2016 , 04:53 AM

#28973

napoleoninrags2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

The 17 saddest moments of Jeb Bush's campaign

I hadn't heard of all of these, a lot are pretty hilarious

I hadn't heard that seatfillers at town hall demanding to get paid story. That's some sad ****, or sad and cold if indeed Marco

02-21-2016 , 05:38 AM

#28974

425kid

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Is it possible or legal for candidates to remove themselves from ballots in selected states? Like could Rubio remove himself from the Texas ballot and tell supporters there to vote Cruz to try to get Cruz over 50% and block Trump from getting delegates? Seems like the optimal play for Cruz and Rubio now is to coordinate to make sure Trump gets as few delegates as possible and just play for a brokered convention.