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02-10-2012 , 01:00 AM
http://ElectoralMap.net/2012/myPredi...0rwr0qq0xrwn0q

this is my current view of the electoral map with mitt vs. obama. I see the closest states as being indiana , colorado,missouri,georgia, nevada, and florida in that order. I also see maine , new hampshire, and pennsylvania as being close due to a slight boost mitt will get from his northeasterness. I think mitt would lose georgia by less than 1% due to a southern problem and the increased diversity in that state. I think his turnout may be down in the southern states across the board but he would still win alabama, souyth carolina missisipi because he isnt obama ldo.
02-10-2012 , 01:03 AM
Is there a GOP candidate who can beat Obama?
02-10-2012 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
Is there a GOP candidate who can beat Obama?
tbh i think mitt is the best choice out of the current candidates running in a cakewalk.
02-10-2012 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
I also see maine , new hampshire, and pennsylvania as being close due to a slight boost mitt will get from his northeasterness.
Romney also hoping that theory works out for the Republican caucus in Maine...
02-10-2012 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
Is there a GOP candidate who can beat Obama?
Given the current trajectory of the economy probably not unless he makes a pretty big mistake between now and November. If his approval number is 50+ very easy win. 45-49 a close win. Sub 45 he loses. imho anyway.
All this assumes a Romney win in the primary cause otherwise it is LOL no.
02-10-2012 , 01:13 AM
Where does Romney differ from Obama on issues?
02-10-2012 , 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
Where does Romney differ from Obama on issues?
Your a Paul supporter, right? So in that context I think I can say not a lot. But spending priorities and taxation are the most significant differences. Foreign policy is probably more style than substantive differences.
02-10-2012 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by peetar69
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise there of,"
Where in the bible does it says abortion or birth control is against the religion. You can still go to church while taking birth control. Birth control should be taken out for cost reasons. Dental should be added, but they won't because it will cost money.
02-10-2012 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Your a Paul supporter, right? So in that context I think I can say not a lot. But spending priorities and taxation are the most significant differences. Foreign policy is probably more style than substantive differences.
I think there is a certain threshhold that could be reached where both obama and mitt would attack iran but both candidates would prefer not to. I think the difference is that mitt would hit that threshhold a bit quicker.
02-10-2012 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
Your a Paul supporter, right? So in that context I think I can say not a lot. But spending priorities and taxation are the most significant differences. Foreign policy is probably more style than substantive differences.
I support RP, but I think I favor Obama over Mitt. I am just looking for a quick rundown of the differences.
02-10-2012 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
I think there is a certain threshhold that could be reached where both obama and mitt would attack iran but both candidates would prefer not to. I think the difference is that mitt would hit that threshhold a bit quicker.
I think Obama moved to the right versus his campaign rhetoric because there is a lot of considerations that the general public isn't aware. There is also some merit in talking tough so that you are not tested. But yeah I would guess your estimation of Iran is accurate.
02-10-2012 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
I support RP, but I think I favor Obama over Mitt. I am just looking for a quick rundown of the differences.
To tell you the truth I would wait for the general campaign when the campaigns sharpen their messages and the differences will become clearer.
02-10-2012 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by peetar69
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise there of,"
Totally.

Granting a special exception that says when the catholic church owns a business they don't have to follow the same rules as everyone else seems like a very clear violation of that clause.
02-10-2012 , 04:51 AM
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PublicPolicyPolling @ppppolls
We put a national poll in the field today and pretty clear your new leader is Rick Santorum.

PublicPolicyPolling @ppppolls
This will mean every GOP candidate who made it to 2012 will have led in 1 of our national polls except Paul, Huntsman, and Roemer

PublicPolicyPolling @ppppolls
What's really scary for Romney is the numbers if Newt dropped out...Newt, by staying in, is all the sudden Mitt's BFF
bahahhahahahahhahahahahhaa
02-10-2012 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
http://ElectoralMap.net/2012/myPredi...0rwr0qq0xrwn0q

this is my current view of the electoral map with mitt vs. obama. I see the closest states as being indiana , colorado,missouri,georgia, nevada, and florida in that order. I also see maine , new hampshire, and pennsylvania as being close due to a slight boost mitt will get from his northeasterness. I think mitt would lose georgia by less than 1% due to a southern problem and the increased diversity in that state. I think his turnout may be down in the southern states across the board but he would still win alabama, souyth carolina missisipi because he isnt obama ldo.
If he carries NC and Virginia like that map, the he gets AZ and CO as well. I just hope he has the pragmatism to pound toss up senate and house districts with surplus cash.
02-10-2012 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by krmont22
Is there a GOP candidate who can beat Obama?
I think if Romney ran as pro his healthcare plan. I think he would have a lot more credibility. He could of said we will try it for 4 years. But, that is why Mitt will never win, the plan is almost exactly how he wanted it and now he is against it because Obama 's name is attached to it.

Nobody believes the economy is Obama's fault. Obama inherited Bush's accelerating deficits.

Romney could have easily won by listing Obama's numerous faults. Obama is borderline communist and basically cradle to grave has been government for him. Obama wanted to pass a $500 billion jobs bill, yet it did not pass and the economy is actually improving (at least according to the media). The reality is the best thing Obama can do for the country is spend the next year or 5 years in Hawaii and veto everything.

So in summary, the only one that can beat Obama is Paul. Once Paul gets in there and he states his case over and over again, I think everyone will realize he is not a racist and that all his ideas make some sense.
02-10-2012 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
bahahhahahahahhahahahahhaa
Fantastic. High comedy. Steward will have a ball.
02-10-2012 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by steelhouse
So in summary, the only one that can beat Obama is Paul. Once Paul gets in there and he states his case over and over again, I think everyone will realize he is not a racist and that all his ideas make some sense.
Until he starts with the evolution-denial. Or starts talking about going back to the gold standard. Or waxes nostalgic about health care in the 60s.
02-10-2012 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by goofball
I seriously can't remember a controversy more manufactured than this birth control rule nonsense.
It is the Rs way to paint a picture that "oh noes Obama be attackin muh reeleegion"
02-10-2012 , 09:13 AM
I think I told someone earlier in this thread that Mittens wouldn't win Maine, and it's looking like RP will actually be able to pull it off. No, that doesn't mean he'll be the nominee, but pretty cool that Maine is willing to make a statement like that.

Is Santorum actually leading national polls? The funny thing is that Newt's ego is too big for him to drop out, so these shenanigans are just going to keep continuing
02-10-2012 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by steelhouse
So in summary, the only one that can beat Obama is Paul. Once Paul gets in there and he states his case over and over again, I think everyone will realize he is not a racist and that all his ideas make some sense.
Lol. No. The last thing in the world Paul would want to do is talk about his ideas.
02-10-2012 , 09:26 AM
disagree with you there phill - while some of his ideas are nuts (gold standard comes to mind most immediately, but also slashing all welfare basically, etc.), i think a lot of his ideas would have more appeal in the general than the R primary.

scaling back the empire/coming home from wars, ending the drug war, etc. are rational and make sense to a lot of people. i'm not arguing that he'd have a chance, HE wouldn't. that's my point - the ideas are more appealing than the man himself.
02-10-2012 , 09:44 AM
What is nuts about the idea that money should be commodity-based rather than inherently valueless and able to be manipulated in supply by elites?
02-10-2012 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
What is nuts about the idea that money should be commodity-based rather than inherently valueless and able to be manipulated in supply by elites?
economy can't grow on a gold standard, regular people would have no access to gold and be even poorer imo
02-10-2012 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by goofball
I seriously can't remember a controversy more manufactured than this birth control rule nonsense.
whenever the media overplays an issue such as this one, it is most likely done to divert public attention from a real, more important issue

      
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