Holy ****ing ****, just when I think someone said something so ******ed that nobody, even in this forum, could possibly be like "wow she's making sense"

Not Huntsman.

Rumour has it he is going to withdraw from the race today.

Kind of a shame. He was actually pretty reasonable.

Nate says the rumor is false.

I had it flash up on my twitter feed from a couple places but i only posted it when 538 RTed someone saying CNN was reporting it.

You realize that the govt. Used to be able to negotiate the cost of those drugs until the republicans, under bush, took away that right in a giveaway ro the pharmacy industry. Another way the republicans drive up the cost the cost of healthcare and the profit line for their partners and then turn around and say "see, govt healthcare is too expensive."

Not like you can't buy this stuff elsewhere if you really need it (at a price of course). Both can be transported via ships if need be (there are also some proposed projects to build a dedicated port for this FWIW). But yeah I think the threat is pretty minimal and like I said we're diversifying. Pretty likely a deal with someone could be brokered during the time we still have reserves.

Most importantly we have pretty good trade relations with Russia and people don't just shut down pipelines because they can. Would cost them a good chunk of money, too.

We could even drop out of all alliances and be in a fairly good position game theory wise given that our neighbours have nukes. I mean France and Britain wouln't exactly be happy if some nukes struck us because radiation is a bitch.

Lol how hard do you think it is to develop nukes? We have plenty of functioning nuclear power plants and there's a bunch of German companies that sell war material all over the place. You don't seem to understand the current ploitical situation at all. Lol at Russians or French fearing German nukes. Pretty sure they fear Pakistani nukes more. In fact Russians probably mistrust US nukes more, too.

Confirmed idiot I guess.

Maybe a new thread for this fairly off topic talk (kinda ontopic because I do support Paul because he wants the US troops gone from here). "Ramblings about international war politics" or something.

What I've come to realize is that the Fed sucks at negotiating anything. It makes a lot of sense to allow the private sector to do the negotiating since it's in their best interest to contain costs.

From what I've seen, according to the CBO, this program has actually been under budget, so yea, now I get it.

I'm not sure I understand your point... The republicans tied the hands of the govt. So that they couldn't use their large user base to negotiate for cheaper pharm.

I agree that the government is blocking a negotiations for cheaper pharm. I don't know if about pinning it on the republicans. I think both parties receive checks for the pharma lobbying groups.

My guess is the Rep wanted the Fed out of it as much as possible since they tend to screw up everything they touch.

lol the first draft of my response was "are you out of your ****ing mind" but I felt that was a bit harsh. People gonna ikes, I guess.

This response makes literally no sense. Are we still talking about Medicare Part D?

Under this logic we can't "pin" Obamacare on the Democrats because Republicans also receive donations from the health insurance industry.

Dude, I know you were probably like 6 at the time, but the negotiating stuff was a big deal and the Democrats did want it.

In fact, once they took control of the House in 2007 they went ahead and passed a bill that tried to add in negotiations:

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan...tion/na-drug13

The President at the time was Bush.

Wait, so because they suck they should just accept whatever price they're given? Are you worried that they're so bad at negotiating they'll take the wrong side and drive the price up?

Hmmm, my response makes no sense but you don't know what it's pertaining to. Gotcha..........

I'm probably going to sit out the general election if Paul loses.

lol srsly? romney is about 1000x better than Obama.

I have no reason to believe that Romney would be any better than Obama on foreign policy or civil liberties.

pretty hard to do worse than obama/bush.

Obama is 100% mainstream centrist. What exactly do you think Romney is going to be left of him on?

Yeah ok! Im gonna remember this in case the catcher's Mitt wins next year

obama is centrist in exactly the wrong way.

so far I haven't seen anything to convince me that Romney will send troops to new countries and start new wars while maintaining 2 old wars.

Yeah, because at this point in 2007 Obama was all about airstrikes in Libya

"so far i havent seen anything to convince me that Romney wont send troops to new countries and start new wars"

Also Afghanistan and Iraq are on a wind down exactly as everyone talked about at every single point ever.

no they aren't.