sad but true

Why do you feel he would beat Mitt? Mitt was the only one in the 2008 election to deal with economic problems and that was the major issues of this country (and thanks to Obama, is getting worse)

i agree about the disorganization....but does the fact that our national debt has quadrupled in 6 months time mean anything...or can the American people not see that far ahead?

hahaha...a typical reply from an Obama supporter. Why must OTHERS be held accountable for Obama to be?!?! Can't you live in the moment? Im not sayin he shouldnt be held accountable but you are avoiding the question and protecting the guy causing this huge problem cause you are distracted with past presidents. stay focused on our current astronomical problems.

They honestly only care in a detached sense. Things have to affect people personally before they really get mad, and with this sort of thing by then it's a little late.

Things will have to get substantially worse for Romney to beat Obama. The US has become pretty used to reelecting presidents. Remember how shocked many were when W got his second term? I wasn't at all and didn't understand how anyone else really could be. Kerry was not presidential enough to beat a president, and neither is Romney without a lot of help. I sort of view him as the republican John Edwards.

Beyond that I'm not quite sure why you seem so wild about him either. Personally I'm getting a little tired of those who vote for someone because they believe they're the lesser of two evils. For some wacky reason that just doesn't seem to be working out for us.

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I suggest you read the sticky for this forum before making another post here.

Obama or his staff blame Bush almost every day for their problems (STILL!!). Thats why i started this post. I am wondering when does this blame switch to the man in office now? When will the tv media and Obama stop looking at Bush and looking at this administration?
Obama specifically points to Bush when he talks about the High Unemployment numbers. He said, unless we rush through this stimulus bill, he said, we may get close to 9%. If it is signed right away then we wont go over 8%. There was so much junk in there, giving money to all sorts of friends of his and people didnt even read most of it, they just pushed it through.
Now we are at about 9.5% unemployment and he is blaming bush AGAIN for this problem and says we need a new stimulus bill to correct this problem.

Why cant he just say he F%$KED up??????

why cant he get asked REAL questions on his health care plan....why did he have to "hand pick" each question he would be asked ahead of time on that nationally televised program??

Why has he had more free prime time national media coverage than Bush and Clinton combined up to this point???

Why does the media not focus on any of the problems he is creating?!?!?!

You must be watching your DVR of the media from last year. The above is simply not true anymore. I'm not saying there's no bias, but questions are being asked. Most msm is reporting this past week as being terrible for him even with Sotomayor breezing through confirmation hearings.

If you want to debate these things logically and without excessive exclamation points, you've come to the right place. But if you want to continue in this manner, I've already found a site better suited for that:

www.youtube.com

WELL SAID!!!!!!!
thats exactly the way its been for the past few elections. People hate A less than B.....so they vote A.

But i feel as though people dont actually LIKE either of them? That is a problem I hope will soon change but fear it wont.
you hit the nail on the head though!!!!

Wat.


Typical lefty posters have to go.


Sick burn imo.

Bush comes back for a 3rd term saying "I told you it was all clintons fault" and "I have proof that ackmihnijahd has weapons of mass destruction"

I don't even know what that terminology means most of the time. U.S. voting is a preference function between the two candidates. Which glass is more full. Or, since the majority are haters, which glass is less empty, same thing.

The last people who refused to vote for what they considered the lesser of two evils were the Nader voters in 2000. They got George Bush instead of Al Gore. But to them, on the particular issues they cared about, those two characters are basically the same, I guess.

I... don't think that's right. I'm fairly confident more than a few people have done that since and in the last election. Some of those who refused didn't vote at all.

I also don't agree with your two candidate limitation. Other people did run right up to the end last year. Just because two candidates are all the majority sees doesn't mean others don't exist, which is actually part of my point.

Yep.

Exactly, the more the merrier too ie more votes for Dems. The Dem party voter recruiting plan in a nutshell. More poor downtrodden, more folks dependent on govt handouts, more Dem votes.

Right, educate less people, make more people dependent on govt handouts, get more people believing that rich folks are screwing them (promote class warfare), have more people pay no federal income tax, you've got more Dem voters.

Good to see people around here finally catching on to the truth of what the Dems represent. Republicans want you to be rich, successful and happy. Dems want to enslave you to the borg and take everything you own.

But its too late now. IF there is an election in 2012 (which I doubt) it will be as fair as any election in Cuba, Venezuela or Iran.. what with the Black Panthers and Acorn doing the counting.

One reason why Obama wants to take over the health care industry is then the Dems can decide who lives and who dies. When all those Chrysler car dealerships were shutdown by Obama the ratio was 42:1 Republican owned vs Democrat owned. You think Republicans will be allowed to receive life saving health care? Ya right.. They'll be "shut down" just like all those Chrysler dealerships.

Party on.. BB

Is 'tin foil hat' forbidden in the stickies? I'm too lazy to check, k,tx.

Howard,

More interesting was the fact that Obama did not shut down ANY of the muslim-owned Chrysler dealerships.

zzzzz pokerbobo drinking the wingnut kool-aid itt obv.

thread title should be "when will Obama get the credit he deserves"

answer is probably some time in 2017 when he's gone.

he's transforming America from a protectionist, polluting cesspit into a nation ready for the challenges of the future.

go watch glenn beck re-runs.

Obama is like a hot chick who gives great head, and we are the dude she is currently blowing who is so pussywhipped that he is unable to call her out for being a gold digger who will leave him broke and miserable when she gets the chance. Most people just can't judge him rationally, the same way guys think with their dick and do stupid things which they would never advise someone else to do if they were giving advice from the 3rd person.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/...publicans.html


actual analysis of chrysler dealership situation. Enjoy.

Last I heard the congress was looking to pass legislation that would keep ALL those dealerships open.

wat

I'm someone who actually pays attention to the "undercard" in presidential elections, and the problem is, no one is ever going to match up 100% with a candidate. So what happens is it becomes a matter of which guy they hate less than the other guy(s) who have a chance of winning. A vote for a libertarian candidate, for example, feels completely wasted to most people. Voting for John McCain (or John Kerry or Al Gore), the voters at least thought their guy had a chance to win.

Presidential elections are less about policy than it is about rooting for one of the teams in the Super Bowl nowadays.

Can we please not do this whole "I would rather cast a meaningless vote for a candidate who might win than cast a meaningless vote for a candidate who wont" thing itt? We get it, voting is like a game to you and you feel satisfaction when your guy wins. Cool. Some people look at voting as a personal, moral responsibility. You dont. Thats fine. This discussion is boring and has been done many times.

For the record, I don't buy into the game of voting for someone who I think will win. I was just making an observation about how most people think. I don't think votes are exactly as meaningful as the effort put into them. Most people put very little effort into it, and we end up in the situation we are now.

I think you and I are more on the same page than your response implies. With that, I won't bring it up again.