Who the **** is going to spend money on a 500 page whinefest from Hillary ****ing Clinton? You could not pay me $500 to read that nonsense.

I will read it for $350.

I'll read it and post my favorite excerpts for $100 if someone ships me a copy - I actually really want to read it for the laughs but I don't want to directly give her a dime. I hate-read Shattered and it was amazing.

Hmm, Hayes said that it's surprisingly good and frank, it's possible the excerpts posted aren't representative and we're getting a slanted view because of Daou.

We'll see what she says on her press tour.

Half the excerpts that are out are about her taking responsibility, and the other half is talking about actual things that happened with other actors in the election. I for one am shocked that Clinton of all people is being talked about in terms of baggage than substance.

I'm sure it's mostly about univeral healthcare, the right to organize, immigrant rights, ending the injustice system and world peace.

I hope it's about ponies.

Btw, anyone catch bernie's non-answer to the ponies anecdote on Colbert?

Sigh

history thread:



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Idk I wasn't paying attention at the time, but just from looking at the maps and vote tallies, a good case could be made that she won the 08 primaries. I would've damn sure tried to grab the nom in her place.

The thing that Bernie tried to do before refusing to campaign until he finished his book in September, and then refused to tell his supporters that they should vote for her?

Wat. Bernie was one of Clinton's top surrogates in September and October.

Bernie made a bunch of speeches in which he:
1) Retold his same stump speech from his campaign
2) Read off a laundry list of all of the ways he disagreed with HRC
3) Made it a point not to tell his supporters to vote for Hillary Clinton ("I can't tell you who to vote for" was a common theme)

Meanwhile, Clinton, the DNC, and everyone else have spent the last year bending over backwards to accommodate Sanders bitter enders, who were always cut from the same cloth as the right wing conspiracy theorists who thought the Clintons killed Vince Foster, they just had different views on taxes and health care.


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Big conspiracies like HRC supported the invasion of Iraq, the illegal war on Libya, sponsored a flag burning bill, campaigned for the crime bill calling people super predators, is besties with Henry Kissinger, along with her husband made over $100M for speeches largely to the finance industry, supported the coup in Honduras, pushed Haiti to lower it's minimum wage from $.61/hr to $.33/hr, bragged about actually building a border wall....

Yeah Vince Foster, same thing.

Bernie's speech at the DNConvention:

"Made a point not to tell his supporters who to vote for", GTFO

Personally, I find having good views on taxes and healthcare to be a pretty valuable trait in voters, but you're more concerned with personal loyalty to Hillary Clinton?

Yeah this is weird. That Bernie speech stuck in my mind more than the others.

It looks like the NY Daily News has taken on making this list:

1. Bernie Sanders, for attacks on the campaign trail that “caused lasting damage” to her run. The Vermont senator - who famously gave Clinton a huge break by saying he wouldn’t focus on her “damn emails” — “had to resort to innuendo and impugning my character.” “It was beyond frustrating that Bernie acted as if he had a monopoly on political purity,” she wrote.
2. “Bernie Bros” for “harassing my supporters online” with attacks that were “ugly and more than a little sexist.”
3. Green Party Candidate Jill Stein, who “wouldn’t be worth mentioning” had she not taken tens of thousands of votes in swing states that Trump won. There "[were more than enough Stein voters to swing the result, just like Ralph Nader did in Florida and New Hampshire in 2000."
4. “Sexism and misogyny,” which led to the victory of a “flagrantly sexist candidate.”
5. Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian hackers, for working “to influence our election and install a friendly puppet.”
6. Former President Barack Obama, for not giving a national television address about the Russian hacking so that “more Americans would have woken up.” Also, for telling her to go easy on Sanders, which made her feel like she was “in a straightjacket.”
7. Former Vice President Joe Biden, for saying the Democratic Party “did not talk about what it always stood for" after campaigning for her.
8. Former FBI Director James Comey, for turning her campaign “upside down” in its final days with his renewed email investigation. “Was this a bad joke?” she writes. “What the hell was Comey doing?”
9. Anthony Weiner, whose teenage sexting scandal led to Comey's new probe, and to his wife and Clinton aide Huma Abedin yelling out, "This man is going to be the death of me!"
10. Clinton’s own statement about putting coal miners out of business, which Trump repeatedly used against her and she says was the campaign moment she “regret(s) the most.”
11. Her “basket of deplorables” statement about Trump’s supporters, which was “a political gift” to her opponent. People "misunderstood me to be criticizing all Trump voters."
12. Her use of a private email server as secretary of state, which she deems “dumb” in retrospect.
13. The ongoing scandal that erupted from her email use, which she deems “even dumber.”
14. The New York Times, for focusing on her emails in reporting that "affected the outcome of the election."
15. Her “traditional” presidential campaign, which was based on “carefully thought-out policies and painstakingly built coalitions” that could not compete with Trump’s “reality TV show that expertly and relentlessly stoked Americans' anger and resentment."
16. The “godforsaken” Electoral College, which went to Trump even though Clinton crushed him in the popular vote by nearly three million votes.
17. Herself, for not realizing “how quickly the ground was shifting under our feet” in the national mood.
18. Hillary hate. "I have come to terms with the fact that a lot of people — millions and millions of people — decided they just didn’t like me,” Clinton writes — though she doesn’t understand the dislike. “What makes me such a lightning rod for fury? I’m really asking . . . I’m at a loss.”*

Is this where we talk about what she's been saying, not the Tragic Death thread? Too many threads these days.

Listened to her entire interview with Pod Save America and she was more critical of Bernie than Trump (she interjected multiple times on random subjects that Bernie is not a Democrat, etc.). It's pretty clear she blames him more than any other thing for her loss.

I am legit taken aback by this. It's just terrible for us going forward. Ugh.

We're supposed to fight Republicans. We're not supposed to let a fox into the henhouse, and be surprised when all our chickens end up dead.

Sanders isn't a Democrat, spent his entire career fighting the Democrats, and has no interest in seeing them win elections. He entered 2016 to keep a Democrat out of the White House and succeeded.


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wtf is this? are you for real?

Yes. If Orrin Hatch decided to switch parties and run as a Democrat it would be pretty obvious that he was doing it to damage the party. Sanders switches parties to run as a Democrat, after decades of railing against the party, and I'm supposed to be so gullible as to think that his motivation wasn't to damage the party?


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Maybe his motivation is to try to get things that he wants to become law? Not some insidious plan to destroy the Democrats? Maybe he correctly understands that we have a two party system?

Bernie DGAF about the "Democratic Party" and I, a registered Democrat, don't really either. I want to win elections and have proper laws, etc. put in place. I don't give a **** about what party label is attached to the candidate who will do such things, but I'm not naive enough to think that candidate will ever have anything other than "Democrat" attached to his name.

To 'switch parties' you have to be a member of a party. He didn't switch parties. The Orrin Hatch hypothetical is woefully stupid. He also voted with Democrats over 90 percent of the time across 25 years in the House and Senate.

Your posts are so bad that I'm still not convinced they're not satire. Perhaps you'd like to draw some connections between Sanders and Vladimir Putin?

Meanwhile:



Which, of course, will get buried under Hillary's buck-passing tour as she spins around wildly firing shots at everyone like a hunter in Oregon Trail. Every single one of these assclowns who isn't talking about healthcare or jobs needs to be primaried or shown the door.

Bernie: trying to get single payer

Hillary: worst ex-candidate evar