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04-14-2019 , 06:32 PM
Hence the phrase in parentheses
04-15-2019 , 11:22 PM
Campus police forcefully detain black Columbia University student in library for not showing his ID

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On his quest for free food, McNab had an encounter with public safety officers, which included a disagreement about his student ID that led officers to pin him to a countertop. The incident, filmed by two witnesses, inspired a weekend of unrest on the New York City campuses, where administrators have released statements and held listening sessions and students have called attention to what some consider a chronic problem within the public safety department.

Barnard has issued multiple statements and hired an independent investigator.

The officers involved, who do not carry guns, have been placed on paid administrative leave.
04-15-2019 , 11:33 PM
Boys at a North Pole, Alaska school storm the girls' bathroom in anger because of a transgender boy using the boys' bathroom

...then a girl in the girls' bathroom knees one of the boys in the crotch and gets expelled.

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The snap at issue: a student transitioning from female to male posted a selfie from the boys’ bathroom.

Some boys at the high school who saw the selfie, however, were angry and decided they would walk into the girls’ bathroom to take their own Snapchat selfie “as a form of protest,” Fairbanks North Star Borough School District Superintendent Karen Gaborik told The Washington Post.

But they would not get far.

The first boy to enter the girls’ room was met by a girl ― who kneed him in the groin. With that, the “protest” was over.

And now the girl has been expelled, her family told The Post.
04-16-2019 , 01:07 AM
Time for her to cash in on some of that sweet sweet rage money!
04-17-2019 , 09:21 AM
Not all heroes wear capes, that girl is awesome
04-18-2019 , 05:22 PM
Conservatives: You can't let transgender people into the wrong bathroom, they're like predators!!! Our little girls won't be safe!

Also conservatives: Damn right they better expel that girl who needed the good conservative boy in the junk for storming into her bathroom. It's not like she could have felt unsafe or anything!

Looking forward to the two weeks of outrage from the Covington Catholic crowd for this girl being expelled.
04-18-2019 , 05:23 PM
I mean, seriously, a bunch of boys storm into the girls restroom and block the door, and she kicks one in the balls to escape and SHE's the problem??? Great ****ing society we've got here. Just ****ing exceptional.
04-18-2019 , 07:56 PM
It's amazing the ridiculous issues the religious right fabricates to stay relevant.

This type of bathroom nonsense is nonexistent in any other country. I remember being in some bars in Spain and gender-labeled bathrooms were ignored by patrons. They were both exactly the same so you just went in whichever one was open. Nobody cared.
04-18-2019 , 09:43 PM
Are there any unisex bathrooms in USA#1? They're starting to be a thing in Straya. I can think of a few bars/restaurants in Adelaide that have them. To be clear, I'm not talking about single-stall rooms, I'm talking about multi-stall bathrooms with shared use. It was a little odd using them for the first time. Studies show men express greater anxiety than women about using them, basically an anxiety that they will make women uncomfortable.
04-18-2019 , 09:52 PM
Never seen one in the US (also talking multi-stall; unisex single-stall is quite common).
04-18-2019 , 10:19 PM
The bathrooms in my dorms freshmen year were mutli-stall (toilet and shower) coed.
04-18-2019 , 10:19 PM
I've seen them in pictures, but the closest I have experienced personally is Stone Brewing in San Diego. It has separated bathrooms, but instead of a mirror above the sink, it is a hole into the other restroom. You cannot see any stalls, urinals, or doors thereto from the hole, only the wall behind the communal sink, but people do routinely get caught off guard when they look up and see a person of the opposite gender instead of their own reflection.
04-18-2019 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
The bathrooms in my dorms freshmen year were mutli-stall (toilet and shower) coed.
Yeah wait I forgot about this. A few dorms on my campus in college voted to have some of their bathrooms coed, and I used at least one more than once. My senior year, I shared a suite with one other guy and four other girls, so our bathroom was necessarily coed.
04-19-2019 , 12:19 AM
Thinking about it, the places in Adelaide with them are all 18+, which makes sense. I don't think our society would be so relaxed about underage girls sharing bathrooms with adult men. Need to get used to adult men and women sharing first.

Bit of a derail, but there's an interesting Psychology Today article about them. A researcher noticed at a conference that men were more reluctant to use them:

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To gain insight into this de facto gendered exclusion, I asked several colleagues about their attitudes toward multi-user unisex restrooms, and whether they had used such a restroom at the conference. Men expressed far greater discomfort, and were more likely to have avoided such restrooms. Their concerns centered on the potential for misinterpretation if they were mistakenly perceived to be watching women, and the possibility that their presence might make the women uncomfortable.
This crossed my mind when I used them for the first time. I don't think I would have avoided them if there'd been single-sex alternatives though (there aren't, in the places that have them).

Couple other things:

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Men who actually had braved the unisex restrooms stated that differences in gendered restroom cultures only added to their discomfort. Women are more relaxed and chatty in public restrooms and make less effort to avoid eye contact or adjacent stalls (Moore, 2012); both behaviors violate stricter male norms of restroom etiquette.
Haven't experienced that, but makes some sense.

The article also ties that to general psychosexual unease from men when using bathrooms:

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These findings are consistent with extant research: Despite paternalistic motivations for sex-segregated restrooms (Kogan, 2010), men express a greater sense of vulnerability and discomfort in public multi-user (single-sex) restrooms than women do. Concerns about “being watched and being mistakenly perceived to be watching” (Moore, 2012) result in strict norms of avoiding interaction and eye contact and respecting personal space (Middlemist, 1976). This apparently homophobic fear of sexual assault and stigma (if perceived as gay) might be alleviated by the presence of women in a multi-user unisex restroom, but instead men recast their anxieties into a heterosexual context. The fear that they might be perceived as watching women, and the fear that women might be made uncomfortable or afraid echoes men’s own experiences and emotions in all-male restrooms.

In reality, these fears may be exaggerated: Women did not express discomfort or concern about sharing restrooms, possibly because sexual assault would be unlikely in a crowded restroom.
In other words, it's all projection, again. The hysteria from men around how women and girls would feel with A MAN IN THEIR BATHROOM is an expression of the anxieties they personally feel while using public bathrooms.
04-19-2019 , 12:41 AM
Ive said this before but when i was a janitor i dont know how many times women told me no you dont have to go as i said i was leaving and they were going into the stall. I think all the bathroom hysteria is a straight male issue.
04-19-2019 , 02:58 AM
The Edge - a big gay dance club in Kansas City we used to frequent in the late 80s/early 90s - had completely coed multi-user bathrooms. Actually I think they were labeled but everyone just ignored the label.

KC = 30 years ahead of the rest of the world, as you'd expect.
04-19-2019 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
Ive said this before but when i was a janitor i dont know how many times women told me no you dont have to go as i said i was leaving and they were going into the stall. I think all the bathroom hysteria is a straight male issue.
The latina woman who cleans our bathroom at work just walks in and replaces the toilet paper while you're at the urinal. She clearly DGAF.
04-19-2019 , 03:00 AM
Not strictly Male. I used the womens room once in a restaurant with 3 customers present because the men's toilet was out of commission. The waitress sent a Male cook in to yell at me.

Only place other than college I've seen coed bathrooms is a gay oriented community center
04-19-2019 , 03:07 AM
I've accidentally walked into a women's bathroom a few times - looked around - why does it smell so nice, and why are there candles and dead plants in vases and stuff? Oh ****!
04-19-2019 , 03:11 AM
I was at a dance party once and girls came in to use the male bathrooms (because there was a giant line for the ladies) and one of them pointed and laughed at a dude's dick. This is the sort of violence that happens when we don't enforce bathroom-use purity.
04-19-2019 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
It's amazing the ridiculous issues the religious right fabricates to stay relevant.

This type of bathroom nonsense is nonexistent in any other country. I remember being in some bars in Spain and gender-labeled bathrooms were ignored by patrons. They were both exactly the same so you just went in whichever one was open. Nobody cared.
Anglo Saxon Protestant views about bodies and sex are pretty ****ed up.
04-19-2019 , 05:27 AM
In Sweden most, if not nearly all, public toilets are unisex.
04-19-2019 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Anglo Saxon Protestant views about bodies and sex are pretty ****ed up.
To be fair those were single stall restrooms. So there is a difference between that and what's being discussed here.

To be honest, I feel awkward pissing in a troth at a pub. It's something I've never seen in America. Was actually taken aback the first time I saw one.
04-19-2019 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
To be honest, I feel awkward pissing in a troth at a pub. It's something I've never seen in America. Was actually taken aback the first time I saw one.
Used to be completely standard at stadiums, in locker rooms, and in bars all over the US. US public restrooms generally have far less privacy than those in Europe.
04-19-2019 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
To be fair those were single stall restrooms. So there is a difference between that and what's being discussed here.

To be honest, I feel awkward pissing in a troth at a pub. It's something I've never seen in America. Was actually taken aback the first time I saw one.
Wow. Extremely common here, although when I think about it, probably less common in new construction.

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