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The Tragic Death of Trayvon Martin: George Zimmerman, Responsible Gun Owner The Tragic Death of Trayvon Martin: George Zimmerman, Responsible Gun Owner

07-23-2013 , 05:36 PM
Funny story... On the night of the verdict, I was in Chester, PA (an all black town outside of Philly) buying some beer and on the way out me and my white friends were stopped by 3 early 20's black men (political correctness) who looked ready to kill us. They asked us "what ya'll think of the Zimmerman verdict?!", and my one friend was just like "Man... it's some ****ing bull**** can't believe he got off" and we all just nodded in agreement and high tailed it the **** outta there.
07-23-2013 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JRustle
LOL ok... what are they? why havent you? so far we have heard "group shot," "too blurry," and "not directly facing the camera. just humor me, what is wrong with THIS picture??? why do you personally think it wasnt used??



not young enough? not happy enough? what is wrong with this more accurate representation of what TM looked like the night of the incident???
1. They got the hollister pic first. They kept using it so readers/viewers would recognize what the story was about rather that using a different photo with each story and leaving viewers wondering who this new kid is.






2. He's smiling bright and looking right at the camera.
3. There's nothing else in the picture to distract you from the subject. It's just a picture of Trayvon, nothing else.
07-23-2013 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
And as perverse as it sounds, I wonder what you Team Vengeance people would be doing if was a blue eyed white kid called Thomas. No, I know. You wouldn't give a rat's rear. Same thing if Zimmerman was black. Nothing to see here, move along.

It wouldn't fit your sense of moral outrage.

So far this year, six 17 year olds and an 8 year old have been murdered in Oakland. Not one of the "Justice for Trayvon" marchers have bothered to mention their names. I guess they don't count. A 17 year old's death is tragic only if it fits into your vision of all that is wrong with America.
But you, on the other hand, follow every murder trial with this much interest lol
07-23-2013 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
1. They got the hollister pic first. They kept using it so readers/viewers would recognize what the story was about rather that using a different photo with each story and leaving viewers wondering who this new kid is.
2. He's smiling bright and looking right at the camera.
3. There's nothing else in the picture to distract you from the subject. It's just a picture of Trayvon, nothing else.
hahahahahah ok man.
07-23-2013 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Dwans Son
A photo of the corpse would have been most accurate.
Most recent side by side I could find.

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07-23-2013 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JRustle
hahahahahah ok man.
OK, I gave you some straight answers. You tell me why it's a journalistic travesty to use that photo for those reasons.
07-23-2013 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JRustle
Wookie, this is a prime example of someone becoming so biased and unable to analyze the facts objectively that they declare GZ a murderer despite the verdict. I'm just taking a wild shot in the dark here but the photo transpositions we have seen probably had a lot to do with coming up with such bizarre narratives:
Despite the verdict? Yeah, despite the verdict I think O.J. is a murderer too.
07-23-2013 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
So that is why they settled because Zimmerman was arrested. No arrest, no settlement.
Short answer, yes.

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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Clearly the key thing in the wrongful death lawsuit was an arrest and not a dead kid.
There are varying degrees of culpability from 100% GZ's fault to 100% TM's fault. If the case had reached it's pre-Crump conclusion, no arrest, no trial & no publicity what do you think the chances are that the HOA pays anything, much less $1,000,000+?
07-23-2013 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
OK, I gave you some straight answers. You tell me why it's a journalistic travesty to use that photo for those reasons.
lol dude.

"Guys, the 2nd picture is 1 week before his death, but looks different enough from the 1st picture that it might leave readers wondering who the new kid is. If we don't use the 1st picture, people might not know who Trayvon Martin is. Let's keep going with the 1st picture anyways in the name of accuracy."
07-23-2013 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by drugsarebad
TM confirmed ambushed GZ in a blind rage after a long sizzurp withdrawal.
You completely missed the point. Shocker. Keep those blinders on
07-23-2013 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeedz
Maybe it's tough for you to understand, and I can't speak for anyone else, but the thought of any innocent person getting killed because some paranoid wannabe rent-a-cop profiled them is enraging, regardless of who the victim or perp is.
Oh, I understand you. Hear victim is black, assign "innocent". Assign "he was profiled". Assign "he did nothing wrong during the entire incident".

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Somehow though I think you realise deep down that the kid being black and looking like a 'thug' has at least influenced how you view the case somewhat. I used to be think like that too, so I totally get that, as you experience the world though you learn it's far more complex than this narrow black or white view you see it through. One day you'll get it.
Somehow I think you inflate your ego by deluding yourself you know what other people think and dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back for being superior to them.

I've been around longer than you have. And you are the one who sees the world as black v white. Only your pendulum has swung to the other extreme. All blacks are victims and all whites are racist agressors.

Yes, the world is more complex. Both people in this incident made mistakes. Both made assumptions. Nobody should have died.
07-23-2013 , 06:00 PM
I think we can all agree:

- Using the 12yo picture was highly prejudicial and created a view of the case far removed from reality (like NBC's "There's this guy...he looks black" fraudulent editing). A responsible news site would not have used it alone, or would have properly captioned it

- It's a good picture for several reasons and appears to be the clearest head shot around, even if it is five years old and a child rather than someone near manhood.
07-23-2013 , 06:01 PM
Did anyone ever provide a source proving the Hollister pic is of a 12-year-old Trayvon?

Lol at the racists itt who are so outraged that a black teenager who was kill was shown smiling and not as the murderous thug they all knew he was. Here's a big hint, if you feel the need to continue to push lies and speculation from racist sources about how much of a criminal a dead black kid, who's killer got off scott-free, then you're probably a racist.
07-23-2013 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JRustle
lol dude.

"Guys, the 2nd picture is 1 week before his death, but looks different enough from the 1st picture that it might leave readers wondering who the new kid is. If we don't use the 1st picture, people might not know who Trayvon Martin is. Let's keep going with the 1st picture anyways in the name of accuracy."
Geez dude. Using the same picture to highlight stories on the same subject isn't some nefarious technique dreamed up for this story to maximally impugn Zimmerman. It's done all the time.
07-23-2013 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Geez dude. Using the same picture to highlight stories on the same subject isn't some nefarious technique dreamed up for this story to maximally impugn Zimmerman. It's done all the time.
JRustle gets his analysis from second hand cryptofascist sites. Don't expect solid reasoning with that one.
07-23-2013 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
JRustle gets his analysis from second hand cryptofascist sites. Don't expect solid reasoning with that one.
No, that's Mojo, who apparently thinks he has me TARPED when I said "we have the tox report" when I should have said "we have the autopsy report which reports on the tox report," which apparently implies that since the report on the report only mentioned THC, it apparently is still OK to speculate baselessly on codeine being in Martin's system as well.
07-23-2013 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Geez dude. Using the same picture to highlight stories on the same subject isn't some nefarious technique dreamed up for this story to maximally impugn Zimmerman. It's done all the time.
Yes, again, in a vacuum I agree. But what about when you've got a more accurate photo? I mean, you seem to think it is fine for them to use a less accurate one in the name of not confusing readers. I prefer accurate portrayals. I'm just a little lost on why you don't. Well not totally lost - I get that you also think it wasn't as good of a choice because the more accurate picture doesn't have TM smiling and has a few other people in the shot to the extent that it apparently distracts from your ability to tell who the subject of the photo is. But lol @ that.

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Originally Posted by Paul D
JRustle gets his analysis from second hand cryptofascist sites. Don't expect solid reasoning with that one.
hahahaha still failing hard today i see. nice. did you learn what the word "cite" means yet?
07-23-2013 , 06:18 PM
The hollister pic is not an inaccurate photo.
07-23-2013 , 06:18 PM
Failing hard?

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/

That is exactly a cryptofasist website that was contained in your wittle wordpress link. I am guessing Wookie didn't know why I said that.
07-23-2013 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JRustle
if we used the picture of him in the group shot, we wouldnt NEED to be guessing, that is the point. it was literally a WEEK before the incident!

and i normally wouldnt care about some notion of fairness but lets be honest, GZs life is effectively ruined despite not getting convicted. this entire case was basically conducted through the media for over a year. a large contingent of idiot americans were never going to believe he wasnt guilty no matter what happened at trial.
Fact. Wookie trolling hard the last few pages.
07-23-2013 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
The hollister pic is not an inaccurate photo.
It's also not as accurate as the one I posted.
07-23-2013 , 06:21 PM
My driver's license photo was taken more than a year ago. I guess it's not a picture of me anymore.
07-23-2013 , 06:22 PM
I think the message is clear if you follow or suspect a person of color any crime you should go to your safe room and call the police. I mean god forbid the days when you teach kid 5 year olds about when being followed by stranger to get home fast call police yell for help I would imagine now its try and ambush follower . So what any 5 year should know trayvon didn't instead of teaching kids this give them a justice for trayvon sign ,lets say attacking is right teach them violence is ok that will make them safer when out.
07-23-2013 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
Failing hard?

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/

That is exactly a cryptofasist website that was contained in your wittle wordpress link. I am guessing Wookie didn't know why I said that.
lollll bro the only things i actually cited to were a legal prof from LI and a criminal defense lawyer. guess you still dont know what cite means. posting a link and saying "here is a good analysis that matches up with other stuff i have read thus far" is not a citation in any non-dumb sense of the word.
07-23-2013 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
My driver's license photo was taken more than a year ago. I guess it's not a picture of me anymore.
it wouldnt be as accurate as one taken today. ESPECIALLY if you look different enough that it might confuse people who saw both of them.

      
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