What grand jury evidence was introduced showing that Wilson was enraged and angry when he shot Brown? Is this supported by documentary or testimonial evidence or is this just wild speculation?

Dat reefer.

How much did you donate to Wilson? I set the o/u here at $149.50.

If you were going to "pull a weapon out of your waistband" as DW implied, why would you put your head down "like you were going to tackle" as DW would also say? His statements contradict. They contradict over and over. If you had a weapon, why would you put your head down and put the GUY SHOOTING AT YOU WITH GUN out of your sight and look down at the pavement? I don't care how much you want to incite reefer madness, it's insane that a guy being shot at would take his eyes off the guy shooting at him for any reason other then being too injured.

Again, I know like ~100 cops, most having served 25 years. I know one who has shot their weapon while on duty. This doesn't prove ****. Wilson was also part of a police force that was disbanded for corruption in only five years on the force. That doesn't look so great, does it?

I hope your dumb racism costs you for the rest of your life Endo. I hope it makes your life worse until you realize this.

Zero monies. Good comeback bro.

Yeah there are a few of those mixed in the testimony.

One of them grabs the recorder and tries to erase it after the FBI tells her that lying to the Feds is illegal lol. Great transcript. You can take a wild guess as to which side the every single one of these witnesses was on.

Endo, you literally opened with the reefer madness line. No one cares what you think, it's hilarious how little knowledge of this subject and so, so many others you have.

Also: people who are just so shocked people fabricate witness accounts, is this your first case you've ever followed?

Do tell then. Inform me.

Wait, you want citations that marijuana doesn't turn people into the Hulk?

We need to stick with the hands up don't shoot part though. Too much that has been invested in it.

Just shocked that the witness accounts which most tightly match the original hands up don't shoot media narrative are either:

1. Totally fabricated

Or

2. From Browns friend who robbed the store with him

Totally weird!

You're saying you have some other knowledge, because you've read all the Grand Jury testimony. So, "what is the smoking gun," is what he was asking I think.

Another man, describing himself as a friend of Brown's, told a federal investigator that he heard the first gunshot, looked out his window and saw an officer with a gun drawn and Brown "on his knees with his hands in the air." He added: "I seen him shoot him in the head."

But when later pressed by the investigator, the friend said he had not seen the actual shooting because he was walking down the stairs at the time and instead had heard details from someone in the apartment complex.

"What you are saying you saw isn't forensically possible based on the evidence," the investigator told the friend.

Shortly after that, the friend asked if he could leave.

"I ain't feeling comfortable," he said.




Lololol

Keep in mind most of these interviews were done with the federales present to keep an eye on the civil rights end of things.

I would love to see the reports they sent back for DOJ and Holder to see after sitting through some of these **** shows. Makes sense why Obama gave such a tepid speech and why the Feds have been leaking like a sieve for months - because they know that the truth on the ground is nothing like the absurd gentle giant narrative which had been peddled in August.

Life advice from Uncle Brian:

If Ferguson comes up during Thanksgiving Dinner, quietly pick up your plate and go out to eat in your car.

Yes. This. I think by having weed in his system it only proves that he isn't a sweet little boy about to go to technical college that he was never enrolled in but started that Monday.

McGriddle, there were 13 or 14 victims who describe him having his hands up. It turns out three were as unreliable as Darren Wilson describing Michael Brown as a demon and having Hulk like strength.

loooool endo, you're saying he wasn't innocent because he smoked pot, which is legal in a few states and something over 100 million americans have tried? What an odd, moronic tangent to go off on.

Mcgriddle, you have to realize Johnson gave his report to media the next day, and it's mostly stood up. Wilson waited weeks, until every bit of physical evidence (including the parts of which he broke several procedures and understood chain of custody protocols to hand after) had come in?

Littlevictory, look up "probable cause." Also, THERE WAS A LITERAL SMOKING GUN.

Can we get a citation on this? Per Wilson's interview with Stephanopolous and the testimony of his supervisor, Wilson was questioned by detectives almost immediately after going back to the station.

Let's play the tape

Oh, the one with other officers present? That wasn't recorded in any way at all? The one that led to the chief of police, his supervisor and others saying he had no knowledge of the robbery? That he would later turn on anyway as the evidence fit? I mean an actual, written/taped statement that isn't a joke.

This isn't a great point for you.

You tell me, you're the one saying Wilson waited for weeks to tell his story.

Officially, on the record is kind of implied here. You know, how they would deal with anyone else suspected of a crime. Not an account that we get no record of, wasn't recorded and will never truly be known by anyone besides his fellow friends in the room.

Darren Wilson was allowed to drive himself to the hospital hours after the murder. He was allowed to hand in his own weapon hours after the incident. A gun used in a killing was not immediately handed over to law enforcement.

When Wilson was finally interviewed, their was no video or audio recording of this incident against protocol. There were other officers present beyond the one taking his summary of events, against protocol.

The prosecutor in the actual grand jury case didn't even ask or press Wilson on tough questions or inconsistencies. Do you think his friends in a small town detachment did, when they interviewed him without any recording devices?

When Vice and others requested internal emails documenting this, they were charged thousands of dollars for any information. I believe Vice paid was quoted $2,000 for 6 emails.

If you mess up like that in a case where a cop was murdered you get demoted. Luckily Wilson won't be a cop ever again. Unfortunately, he has $400k to face his actual demons with.

Edit: Guys, if we want to talk about witnesses being biased or lying, there are plenty on both sides. 16/29 said Wilson had his hands up. As you point out, three tend to have very unrealistic portrayals of what happened. Now, 7/29 have Brown as coming at Wilson. I've only read about half of these in full, but one of them who describes this was....blocks away at the time and describes thinking MB had a gun.

Most of these witnesses wouldn't get put on the stand in an actual trial because their credibility would be destroyed. The "prosecution" used so many witnesses with so many different, often ludicrous tales to exonerate Wilson. It was part of their strategy. Their were 30 witnesses and very few tell anything close to the same story. In a real trial, this wouldn't happen. But this was an efficient strategy to confuse the jurors and put huge doubt over what actually happened into their heads.

poor, poor taxpayer

why can't the blacks stop smoking the reefer

Something weird about the supervisor's testimony that Wilson told him he didn't know about the robbery. One of the released documents shows the radio traffic and it indicates the call went out about the robbery, other units responded, after Wilson finished up his call he asked if those units needed his help, and then it has Wilson's message about there being 2 guys on canfield and to send another car.

Citation please on what protocol is for these kinds of things.

Also in the giant 14-43984 CARE Main doc, starting on page 12 it has what Wilson told the detective shortly after the shooting.

You need a citation that an officer isn't asked to give their weapon they just used in a shooting whenever?

Do you also have a giant sign in your bathroom that says "wipe?"

Give it whom?

I'm reading through the supe's testimony right now and he said that day including himself and Wilson, there were 6 officers available, 3 of which were at the scene, 1 of which was on another call, and another back at the station on light duty. Perhaps instead of some grand conspiracy, the reason Wilson turned his gun over himself is that things were a little busy at the time and no one had a chance to "formally" ask him for it?

We've now learned that witnesses lied to investigators, likely in an attempt to get Wilson charged. So excuse my skepticism re: every pro 'hands up don't shoot' argument. Feels like I'm debating 9-11 truthers all over again....