Did you not see the convenience store tape? Brown had a quick fuse in it. Let's say the cop was being a dick to him and called him something racist or said something else that brown took offense to, maybe he then snapped at Wilson. Things like that happen every day (people make dumb decisions based off of emotion). I'm not saying he definitely lunged at Wilson, but for you to say it's impossible is wrong.

Why was Wilson pulling a gun to deal with a jaywalker?

Why do you think that's what happened?

Hopefully the jury has as much sense as ChrisV. But I have a bad feeling Wilson's gonna walk. And then probably the Ferguson cops will throw a parade for him through town, with all their military equipment. Wearing their "I am Darren Wilson" apparel. Robes optional.

LOl yeah somebody should be ashamed of themselves here, and it's not the cop who SHOT AN UNARMED MAN TO DEATH?

TIWRWAB

Wait so was that definitely Brown in the store? I was under the impression that it wasn't. (Not that it changes the situation much.)

I like how the grand jury is, supposedly, hearing how he saw Brown and noticed he matched the description of the thief and then saw the cigars so he confronted him. Nice story he's got there considering the Chief acknowledged right away that Wilson had no idea about that.

Guess it really helps to take 2 months, and know all the available evidence, to get your story straight.

If two people are having a physical altercation in the door of a car and one of them fires a gun, it's hard to imagine an arrangement where the other guys hand isn't near the gun.

Nope. Sounds very much possible.

A gun was certainly not pulled nor was it fired for no reason whatsoever. There was a scuffle.

Now when an aggressive and brazen guy like Brown gets into a fight, and shots get fired chaotic behavior is exactly what you'd expect.
Maybe for a split second he thinks of taking the gun, maybe not, maybe he lunges this way, punches that way, runs this way, then runs that way, adrenaline shooting through... Perfectly viable. I mean, getting into an actual fight in a cop car is pretty crazy in itself.

We do know that we was facing the cop at the end, do we not? He did not simply take off running at some point and zig zaging away. So we should take it from there.

That is correct and cherrypicking bits and pieces of narrative like you are doing will not change it.

Unarmed men can strangle, knock out, maim or kill no problem.

On the other hand, not getting into an actual fight with a cop is not that hard, which is why millions of people manage to do it every day of their lives.

Well picture this.
You're in a fight where shots have already been fired. The perp is obviously a little crazy for it to go that far. Unpredictable. Unreasonable. You have no idea what's gonna happen next, but the altercation has already started and it has escalated to shooting.

And so the gun is still pulled, the perp is showing hostile intent, and zero obedience to your commands. If he stops, you stop. If he does not, you have no choice.

Not only are shots justified, they are logical and absolutely necessary.

lol. you're trying too hard bro.

Is this the creative fiction workshop thread now?

This is the story that the killer cop is claiming.

Some times life comes at you fast and you come up with the wrong metaphor

http://jimromenesko.com/2014/10/28/c...takes-it-back/

How many times do the STL police have to lie before people quit giving them the benefit of the doubt or the presumption of truth?


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/67488...ne-aimed-media

Story out about how the whole No Fly zone thing was specifically requested by the police to stop news choppers from covering protests.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...102-story.html

Infinity. This whole thing isn't about which side is objectively correct. It's tribal politics where supporting your side is much more important than "facts."

Except there has to be some kind of actual fact there, and if the police didn't mind commercial traffic getting shot at then we need to look into why.

There were no concerns about air traffic (commercial or otherwise) being shot at. They simply didn't want the police to be filmed.

What happened to the 350 lb black guy in New York, who was choked to death for selling illegal cigarettes? Why doesn't he get any love?

85% of people have cellphones with cameras.
The town is going to be crawling with multiple camera crews from every news agency.

Not be filmed?

More likely tactical. They don't want live shots of them staging, sweeping, flanking, etc going out over the air where people can see it live on their phones and avoid the sweeps, etc.

Probably and here's the deal. That's a perfectly legitimate reason. Now it might fail on its merits. Maybe the media usually doesn't report those things, maybe they do, but then we'd actually be discussing that, instead finding out the police lied.

Well that makes no sense as being their intention. Its much easier to coordinate via social media like twitter and facebook on those phones than by watching CNN. See the arab spring, the london riots, the HK protests etc.

They intimidated the media into not covering events, arresting them for no reason, shutting down their cameras etc. It is pretty clear what their intent was.

Yes it was brown in the store
Yes it was brown who strong armed the clerk
Yes it was brown who grabs the clerk by the throat and shoves him away and then proceeds to go after the clerk till he quickly backs off.

http://youtu.be/v7WIju-nAoQ

I was wondering about this also. Did anything come of it?

I'm guessing he was buried. Maybe cremated.

Not sure if the cop has faced consequences yet, that I would like to see.

In other news, on Halloween, some black guy wearing a costume and a sword (a real metal, dulled-edge sword) was shot 6 times by cops. They "feared for their lives" and the public safety because of his sword. Fwiw I don't know the details, maybe the guy was actually swinging it at the cops like they claim. (But their claim provides 0 info because that's the gonna be their claim 100% of the time whether it's true or not.)

Aw I would reply but you're banned, gee what a bummer. We'll miss you so much.