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The Tragic Death of Mike Brown: No Indictment, No Peace The Tragic Death of Mike Brown: No Indictment, No Peace

08-26-2014 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rakeme
The main issue in America is the drug war and it's effect on inner city black youth. If they would just legalize drugs and get kids off the street corner, it would change the entire culture. They could use the money we spend on the drug war to create better job opportunities in cities and help to better fund education. Philadelphia has some of the worst public schools in the country and also some of the worst open air heroin trafficking, there's definitely a correlation between the two.
lol. The racism of the drug war is not a bug. It's a feature.

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/7/5978551/...reform-support
08-26-2014 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rakeme
The main issue in America is the drug war and it's effect on inner city black youth. If they would just legalize drugs and get kids off the street corner, it would change the entire culture. They could use the money we spend on the drug war to create better job opportunities in cities and help to better fund education. Philadelphia has some of the worst public schools in the country and also some of the worst open air heroin trafficking, there's definitely a correlation between the two.
I'd rather just kill all potheads, starting with the white ones.
08-26-2014 , 06:00 PM
Over 400k has been raised for Wilson and he hasn't even been charged yet. Between that and the coordinated social media wipe, I would say lessons from the Zim case are being applied: don't let any info out and anticipate that the shooter who didn't extend any help to his unarmed, shot-up teen victim will be forced to at least wait a few minutes while the jury raps up their solitaire.
08-26-2014 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
Higher likelihood of being racist: Wilson or Wilson supporter?
Wilson supporter. If you look at the comments under most of the people who have sent funds his way, it's the worst kind of racist hate speech.

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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
Over 400k has been raised for Wilson and he hasn't even been charged yet. Between that and the coordinated social media wipe, I would say lessons from the Zim case are being applied: don't let any info out and anticipate that the shooter who didn't extend any help to his unarmed, shot-up teen victim will be forced to at least wait a few minutes while the jury raps up their solitaire.
Well, police blocked off many people from receiving treatment when they were tear gassed during the protests. I'd love to know when/if an ambulance was called for Brown. He was sitting in the street for what, 5 hours? Or was it just a "kids been shot in the head, let's deal with it in 6 hours?"
08-26-2014 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
Higher likelihood of being racist: Wilson or Wilson supporter?
Wilson supporter AINEC. I can imagine a universe in which Wilson got scared, fired his gun, and is an otherwise nice person who reacted in a fit of absorbed racism from a lifetime of living in the United States. I cannot imagine too many people who would willingly donate to as-yet-unnecessary defense fund for any reason other than "that punk/[other less nice word] had it coming."
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Originally Posted by AsianNit
I don't think I've ever heard a non-racist refer to "race hustlers".
Nope. And it's almost always used to apply to people like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. You know, the Al Sharpton who is so interested in stirring up black resentment against white people that he spent Michael Brown's funeral morally hectoring black people. I'm not saying Al Sharpton is a great example of African-American leadership. Frankly I think he is out of touch, and he's become an easy symbol for white people to point to as a huckster and a "race hustler" because he's had a history of sticking his foot in his mouth. But literally no amount of criticism of the black community will absolve him in the minds of people who use the phrase "race hustler." Calling it a "hustle" by definition suggests that there is no legitimate grievance in Ferguson, or maybe in the United States as a whole.
08-26-2014 , 06:17 PM
Intellectual: a person with no capacity for self reflection.

Something I learned itt.
08-26-2014 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
Intellectual: a person with no capacity for self reflection.

Something I learned itt.
Bet you didn't know that discussing issues from both sides , without emotion, involves deleting posts from one side that give you a sad either.
08-26-2014 , 06:32 PM
Bruce,

You're super confused by the whole Donald Sterling thing, right?

08-26-2014 , 06:32 PM
No clue why anyone would read such a wall of text.

In other news, legit shocked our non-racist friends in this thread haven't brought up Dillon Taylor (unless I missed it?). All my conservatard friends on FB have been going ape**** about the supposed double standard. I barely looked at the story because it's basically Washington Times, etc. talking about it, but apparently a black cop shot an unarmed white kid AND THERE NEEDS TO BE OUTRAGE.
08-26-2014 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
Bet you didn't know that discussing issues from both sides , without emotion, involves deleting posts from one side that give you a sad either.
I prefer:

08-26-2014 , 06:33 PM
'Race hustler' is a type of accusation used to target any civil rights leadership. Calling it a hustle is indeed a rhetoric device used to breed mistrust of the leadership within a minority community and reinforce pejorative stereotypes amongst low thinkers in the supremacists community.

It is similar to the 'gay agenda' and the 'zionist plot' in the sense it suggests something insidious is going on by untrustworthy people with suspect motives. All of these phrases lack real content to give depth to the accusation, unless poor use of rational deduction faculties count as content.
08-26-2014 , 06:35 PM
Oh man just read some of the quotes re: Bruce. Pretty sure calling the dude a racist isn't an insult or anything because it is straight up the absolute truth. Wow.
08-26-2014 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceZ
Discussion is necessary in a free society. To disallow such discussion is fascism which is at least as dangerous as the racism that you rightly deplore. SMP isn't intended for the discussion of politics, yet many political issues get discussed there that cannot be discussed here because of the way the Politics forum is run. You can help change that by reporting every post where someone is called a racist. These will be removed, and infractions will be issued where appropriate. I promise to do everything I can to give this forum back to you the people.
Which is it? Do we need to allow open discussion or do we need to remove every post where somebody is called a racist?
08-26-2014 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Bruce,

I definitely didn't mean to imply that I found your posts to be heinous because I consider you to be an intelligent guy and a friend as well. Reading those posts didn't change that. I meant what I said when I said that I thought you probably helped more people on this site more substantially than any other poster. I only posted to say something positive about you, since I do respect you.

I just said that those posts were unfortunate, and they are. I understand where you are coming from talking about race from a probabilistic viewpoint but I think that actually thinking that is a good idea for society to make stop and frisk and other law enforcement policies target blacks and hispanics and muslims more than whites is simply a system for institutional racism.

Not the least because you are introducing a selection bias, preferentially suspecting minorities of crimes, which will increase the rate at which minorities will be convicted of crimes, which then can be used to justify the heightened policing of the minorities. This would produce a higher rate of crime among minorities even if all ethnic groups committed crimes at the same rate.
Great point. I never even thought of that. Ugh.
08-26-2014 , 06:41 PM
The gays have an agenda, tho.

08-26-2014 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Bruce,

You're super confused by the whole Donald Sterling thing, right?

I have to go to a bunch of AAs because of my DUI. Apparently one of the 12 "promises" of completing the program is that "I will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle me."

I imagine the 12-step program for racists has a similar promise.
08-26-2014 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
The gays have an agenda, tho.

A+ trolling with the breaking up hetero marraiges and watching Maddow
08-26-2014 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
'Race hustler' is a type of accusation used to target any civil rights leadership. Calling it a hustle is indeed a rhetoric device used to breed mistrust of the leadership within a minority community and reinforce pejorative stereotypes amongst low thinkers in the supremacists community.

It is similar to the 'gay agenda' and the 'zionist plot' in the sense it suggests something insidious is going on by untrustworthy people with suspect motives. All of these phrases lack real content to give depth to the accusation, unless poor use of rational deduction faculties count as content.
It is different from both the "gay agenda" and "zionist plot" in the sense we can easily see who said race hustler is (or who they are) and demonstrate why their behaviors match the description.
It is directed at a person and his behaviors. It is not just a general description of a movement. It is, instead, much more similar to seeing someone is an ordinary street hustler, except these guys aren't using matchboxes to do their hustling.


Anyway, the whole shooting and the media treatment of it, sadly, went as expected. Media pumped and distorted the story for clicks, ratings, angles, reactions and emotions.
They got it, and they got their riots along the way.

Second part of the situation are gullibility and propensity towards outbursts in some populations, which are doing said riots.

Same story once again.
08-26-2014 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
The gays have an agenda, tho.

Maddow! It's much worse than I thought.
08-26-2014 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Eagle7
It is different from both the "gay agenda" and "zionist plot" in the sense we can easily see who said race hustler is (or who they are) and demonstrate why their behaviors match the description.
It is directed at a person and his behaviors. It is not just a general description of a movement. It is, instead, much more similar to seeing someone is an ordinary street hustler, except these guys aren't using matchboxes to do their hustling.


Anyway, the whole shooting and the media treatment of it, sadly, went as expected. Media pumped and distorted the story for clicks, ratings, angles, reactions and emotions.
They got it, and they got their riots along the way.

Second part of the situation are gullibility and propensity towards outbursts in some populations, which are doing said riots.

Same story once again.
The media may play on emotion but it doesn't create it in the first place. You don't get riots like that without a lot of pent up anger based on nothing short of direct personal experience.
08-26-2014 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
The media may play on emotion but it doesn't create it in the first place. You don't get riots like that without a lot of pent up anger based on nothing short of direct personal experience.
It only works on gullible populations with a propensity toward outbursts.
08-26-2014 , 06:55 PM
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Second part of the situation are gullibility and propensity towards outbursts in some populations, which are doing said riots.
THEM ******S SURE ARE STUPID AIN'T THEY?
08-26-2014 , 06:56 PM
That btw- is a thing that would look racist if taken out of context that clearly isn't with context. Doesn't look much like Bruce's posts.
08-26-2014 , 07:00 PM
Sorry Dids: In the interest of having an open and honest discussion, we're going to have to delete those last few posts of yours. You can apologize when you come back from your vacation.

Last edited by Jbrochu; 08-26-2014 at 07:01 PM. Reason: sorry, emergency vacation
08-26-2014 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
BruceZ is one of the brightest bulbs in the room no doubt.
and also one of the best posters. Unfortunately the indignant outrage of the unthinking masses doesn't gel well with the brightest and the best.

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If you have a problem with his viewpoint go over to that forum and debate him.
That would be great if they wanted to learn something but its pretty clear most of those you are addressing have no interest in anything but nasty small minded jeering and cheering with their intellectual equals.


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Originally Posted by AsianNit
But the worst thing he posted is probably suggesting privatization of the police.
I don't want to include you in the above but didn't you think the response about police having to wear ridiculous mustaches was in context?

      
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