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08-14-2014 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
State forces taking over for the local PD
About time. Ferguson Mayor Knowles (tempting to add an 's') on CNN this morning said "It's not my job to second guess the police." Did I hear that right? Who the **** has hold of the leash?
08-14-2014 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777
Not sure how talking about the militarization of the police when thats the dominant theme of pretty much every article being written about this is a "pet cause" but I guess thats why I usually try to stick clear of lolpvn and politards threads
I'm talking about the "libartardiannnnnnz" and the "boston marathon conspiratard" tangents
08-14-2014 , 12:08 PM
08-14-2014 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
They're minding the tattoo parlors

According to the story that accompanies this photo, these are the business owners and were defending their businesses against looters. Supposedly another store in their strip mall was looted but the vandals left when they saw these other business owners were armed. Not sure how true that is but that's what the tattoo shop owner said.

I'm not a fan of guns, don't own one... but if deterring criminals from looting your store isn't a valid use of a firearm, nothing is.

Edit: also 2 of these guys are black not that it should matter, but comparing small business owners defending their property from looters, with the anti-govt fringe wackos from the Bundy ranch, is dumb.

Last edited by revots33; 08-14-2014 at 12:24 PM.
08-14-2014 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777
huge deployable military-style police force capable of immediately shutting down an entire city, essentially making it illegal to be outside, and effectively blacking out almost 100% of the media
They shut down the portion of Watertown that they were hunting for the suspect in, so if that's what you are talking about and you think that was overkill fair enough.

If you are talking about shutting down Boston, it didn't really happen. I walked around Boston on April 19th, my office was fully open and staffed, zero issues, broadcasts were occurring all over Boston.

The military capability is certainly over the top, but the police having Boston on lockdown is a bit of a myth and certainly nothing like we are seeing in Ferguson.

EDIT: Just saw your second post

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Huh? This is obviously wrong. And Cameras were allowed nowhere past any of the perimeters which is why everyone was going around trying to find police scanner streams. Not that this was central to my post anyway.
This is mistaken. Cameras were 100% inside Watertown and Boston was 100% not on lockdown or curfew or anything.
08-14-2014 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
I'm talking about the "libartardiannnnnnz" and the "boston marathon conspiratard" tangents
Who conspiritarded about the boston marathon? The point was about the scale of the police response which I brought up because it was fairly recent and one of the most enormous ones in US history.
08-14-2014 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Omar Comin
Obama making a statement at 12:15.
He will be urging restraint.
08-14-2014 , 12:28 PM
One of the Anonymous twitter accounts has released a name and photo of who they think the shooter is. They say they have more info to release if Ferguson doesn't responded.
08-14-2014 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
According to the story that accompanies this photo, these are the business owners and were defending their businesses against looters. Supposedly another store in their strip mall was looted but the vandals left when they saw these other business owners were armed. Not sure how true that is but that's what the tattoo shop owner said.

I'm not a fan of guns, don't own one... but if deterring criminals from looting your store isn't a valid use of a firearm, nothing is.

Edit: also 2 of these guys are black not that it should matter, but comparing small business owners defending their property from looters, with the anti-govt fringe wackos from the Bundy ranch, is dumb.
My post was pretty obviously not meant to be taken seriously, sorry for trolling you.
08-14-2014 , 12:39 PM
IF I'M AS LATE TO WORK AS OBAMA HAS BEEN TO THIS CONFERENCE THEN I WOULD BE FIRED, WHY IS HE SO SPECIAL?
08-14-2014 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JPantz
One of the Anonymous twitter accounts has released a name and photo of who they think the shooter is. They say they have more info to release if Ferguson doesn't responded.
The PD said the name and photo is of a police officer that doesn't even work there
08-14-2014 , 12:40 PM
So he's actually a federal agent working undercover as a Ferguson police officer.
08-14-2014 , 12:45 PM
Is this statement real life?

Re: MO governor
08-14-2014 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by adios
He will be urging restraint.
Given the menu of things to urge in the situation when it comes to the violence which is occurring this is a good decision to predict.

I'll be impressed if he calls for sending in unarmed peace volunteers to help with the protests.
08-14-2014 , 12:49 PM
Rand's statement is pretty damn strong: http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

POTUS about to speak.
08-14-2014 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
The PD said the name and photo is of a police officer that doesn't even work there
Was it this one (saw this on another board but without any further context)

08-14-2014 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LVpokerPRO
Press was arrested multiple times, Al Jazeera was fired upon for filming, cops on loudspeakers telling people to turn off cameras....
I mean press isn't being attacked by the protestors, like some of them were in the LA Riots.
08-14-2014 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by __harmless
At least the BBQ and fall hayrides are elite.
St. Louis BBQ is pig swill.
08-14-2014 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
Can someone explain what's being criticized about libertarians here? I consider myself one and am pretty mad about this, and feel bad about this, feel it's clearly racially motivated, very against the militarization of everything, and feel other libertarians should feel the same way. What am I missing?
In a nutshell: Fly and goofy imagining your stance on this, then lambasting you for it.
08-14-2014 , 12:58 PM
08-14-2014 , 12:59 PM
what are the actual chances of someone being able to pull a gun off a police officer and fire it? Seems like it would be really awkward to do.
08-14-2014 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
"Upcoming Events"

-RIOTZ
08-14-2014 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by domer2
Rand's statement is pretty damn strong: http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

POTUS about to speak.
That is a pretty good statement.
08-14-2014 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by domer2
Rand's statement is pretty damn strong: http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

POTUS about to speak.
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
In a nutshell: Fly and goofy imagining your stance on this, then lambasting you for it.
lol yup
08-14-2014 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777
Huh? This is obviously wrong. And Cameras were allowed nowhere past any of the perimeters which is why everyone was going around trying to find police scanner streams. Not that this was central to my post anyway.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2013/04...ng-can-it-last
Boston was not shut down. All surrounding towns were not shut down. There wasn't a legal mechanism to lock anything down. People could come and go as the pleased.

The only thing the authorities did re: "locking down the city" or w/e your point is was ask and advise people in the areas they were searching to stay inside while they looked for the kid who was blowing **** up and killing people, which seemed reasonable.

just stick with "American PDs having surplus military equipment is troubling" and i don't expect you'll find much disagreement.

      
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