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Originally Posted by dessin d'enfant
We'll see. I'm a millennial also, but I don't really see Occupy Wall St types being important to the future of the party or the country. It's never good to base very strong, out of the mainstream views on things you don't really understand and I think alot of my peers will grow out of it.
I think it runs way deeper than Occupy Wall Street. It's the graphs of worker productivity and income growth of the 1% vs. the bottom 90% or whatever. It's knowing almost every politician has been getting tons of money from lobbyists and is not acting in the interest of the voters. You don't have to be an activist to see those things and have it impact your support of a candidate.
Time will tell, but I think the political elites are going to have to make some concessions to these voters to keep getting their support going forward.
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Originally Posted by sirio11
I have trouble with putting Warren and Sanders in the same camp. I think somebody like Warren can work together with the Obamas and Clintons of the world to make some positive changes in the right (progressive) direction.
While Sanders is a never-compromise populist cult leader who will never get things done.
I mean, Sanders is willing to work with Trump on economic stuff as others have pointed out. The two of them use different rhetoric and have some different ideas, but both speak in whatever terms to the rigged economic system/government systems that are unfair to like 90% of the country.
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Originally Posted by jt217
I don't know man, I really don't know. I want to respond to this post with a bunch of angry words, but really it's just me letting out my anger over the trump victory, and I don't think there's really any value in me typing those words.
But like, things are not going to be good going forward, and it's important to highlight that fact. People who either don't know what they're dong or have nefarious objectives are in charge of our government. It will not go good for anyone. The fact that this wasn't a 400-158 or better electoral college victory for clinton means that there are a huge, huge amount of people out there that are just morons. There's no other word for it. Things are going to be bad as a result of trump, and they're going to be bad for everyone. And we knew this would happen, and a literal sixty million people voted for him. How can we even go on?
I agree things are not going to be good. They're terrifying. Globally, we're much less stable now. Domestically, at best, lots of rights will be infringed upon. At worst, I don't want to think about it right now. Also, staples of our democracy could be threatened - free speech, freedom to assemble and freedom of the press chief among them.
I agree there are a lot of people who voted for him that didn't understand what he'd do, and totally misconstrued what it would mean for them. At the end of the day, they exist and they vote, so we can try to pull them toward sanity or we can give up.
You can try to move to Canada, which is pretty damn hard, or you can fight. I called my senators and representatives yesterday, and I'm going to keep doing it. I'm calling out everyone who spouts bull**** whenever I hear it, and I'm going to keep doing it. I'm prepared to step up and fight for someone if their rights are threatened in any way in front of me, and I'm prepared to protest for any group that has its rights infringed upon.
Hopefully, it never comes to any of that, but if it does, I'm prepared and I've thought about how far I'm willing to go. If you're cool with living with all the bad things you're worried about and hoping for the best, then I guess just give up and see what happens. Otherwise, do some thinking and decide what you're prepared to stand for and how.