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The Tragic Death of the Democratic Party The Tragic Death of the Democratic Party

07-23-2018 , 07:42 PM
dth,

You're an idiot
07-23-2018 , 07:51 PM
GOP is usually smarter than that. That **** will fail hard if that's what they go for. They may think they can get the centrist Dems, just like Hillary thought she could make a play for the Romney Republicans, but in the end, for the most part champstark is right and people will fall in line. Or, more accurately put partisans will be partisan.

GOP obviously should be going all-in on OPEN BORDERS!!!!!, MS-13, trans bathrooms, and war on Christmas.
07-23-2018 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Where did the Federalists go when they went extinct?

These people you are talking about have few scruples. They desire power. Some of them will become Bernie Dems and some of them will become Never Trumpers in the GOP.
There was only one viable political party for like 20-30 years after the Federalists disappeared. I don't think that's going to happen in this environment. A more relevant historical insight would be the movement of progressives over the last 100 years (post-TR). Sometimes forming their own party, sometimes a faction of Republicans, sometimes a faction of Democrats. They've occasionally been the dominating faction. We may be seeing that again. I expect most centrist Democrats go along with it and/or shift their own positions left to keep up. Second most likely scenario would be the centrists breaking off for independent runs (see Nancy Floreen, Bloomberg's 2016 threat in the event Bernie won the primary).
07-23-2018 , 09:37 PM
Shuffle's beat poetry is making me vote for Trump.
07-23-2018 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
dth,

You're an idiot
you most definitely outrank dth in terms of most terrible hawt takes given, fwiw
07-23-2018 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
The GOP doesn't need to work hard when you have people masquerading as the left always getting it so wrong.
What's your proof that those people are GOP plants pretending to be liberal?

Just because somebody might have political beliefs in common with yours doesn't make them smart.
07-24-2018 , 10:08 AM
Yeah, it's a shame people look at a fictional story about a competent president surrounded by competent people who put the country ahead of their own gain and agonize about keeping things from the public as a role model for government...
07-24-2018 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by d10
There was only one viable political party for like 20-30 years after the Federalists disappeared. I don't think that's going to happen in this environment. A more relevant historical insight would be the movement of progressives over the last 100 years (post-TR). Sometimes forming their own party, sometimes a faction of Republicans, sometimes a faction of Democrats. They've occasionally been the dominating faction. We may be seeing that again. I expect most centrist Democrats go along with it and/or shift their own positions left to keep up. Second most likely scenario would be the centrists breaking off for independent runs (see Nancy Floreen, Bloomberg's 2016 threat in the event Bernie won the primary).
I'd like to see Bernie Dems become the Dem party, Clinton Dems go Independent, never Trump Reps go Independent, and Trump Reps become the Rep party. Wouldn't that force the general to always have at least three candidates, of which the D and R primary winners can't be extremist morons because they need the Independent vote to win?
07-24-2018 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
I'd like to see Bernie Dems become the Dem party, Clinton Dems go Independent, never Trump Reps go Independent, and Trump Reps become the Rep party. Wouldn't that force the general to always have at least three candidates, of which the D and R primary winners can't be extremist morons because they need the Independent vote to win?
Three strong candidates for POTUS means the House of Representatives choses the president.
07-24-2018 , 11:24 AM
07-24-2018 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Three strong candidates for POTUS means the House of Representatives choses the president.


Might still be a good thing given my desired shift?

Last edited by TeflonDawg; 07-24-2018 at 02:59 PM. Reason: sorry, thinking emoji off phone too small to account for my large head
07-25-2018 , 04:43 PM
Lose almost 95% of the last 2,000 elections, blame Americans. Prop up a Socialist to win in 2020 while discussing almost no issue of relevance to average Americans. Democrats are pretty much dead here on out barring the random changing of house and senate seats. I cannot even wait to see the faces in 2020.
07-25-2018 , 05:09 PM
WTF are you talking about?
07-25-2018 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bptuneman
Lose almost 95% of the last 2,000 elections, blame Americans. Prop up a Socialist to win in 2020 while discussing almost no issue of relevance to average Americans.
"I am very smart"
07-25-2018 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
WTF are you talking about?
Don't know why you're asking him; he clearly doesn't know.
07-25-2018 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bptuneman
Lose almost 95% of the last 2,000 elections, blame Americans. Prop up a Socialist to win in 2020 while discussing almost no issue of relevance to average Americans. Democrats are pretty much dead here on out barring the random changing of house and senate seats. I cannot even wait to see the faces in 2020.


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Abrams’s ad is called*“Trusted”*while Kemp’s is called*“Offends,”*and they only diverge further from there. Abrams talks about issues, and she talks optimistically about making people’s lives better in a concrete way. Kemp, typically for a 2018 Republican, talks exclusively about diffuse threats to the white Christian cultural order.

Abrams says she has “a boundless belief in Georgia’s future,” and talks about Medicaid expansion, middle-class taxes, and mass transit.

Kemp describes himself as “a politically incorrect conservative” and literally does not mention any policy issues. Instead, he says that he says “Merry Christmas” and “God bless you,” stands for the national anthem, and supports our troops, and that if that offends you, then you shouldn’t vote for him.

Obviously there are literally no people in the United States of America who are offended by people who say “Merry Christmas” in December, but over the past 10 to 15 years, the conservative establishment in America has spun up this weird alternate reality in which totally normal, inoffensive behavior is under siege in American life and can only be protected by electing Republican politicians.
https://www.vox.com/2018/7/25/176119...brian-kemp-ads
07-25-2018 , 06:04 PM
A funny fact mentioned on TYT is that a majority of republicans actually recognize that GOP is the more corrupt party. Thats insight that you wouldnt necessarily expect republicans to have or admit.
07-26-2018 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
A funny fact mentioned on TYT is that a majority of republicans actually recognize that GOP is the more corrupt party. Thats insight that you wouldnt necessarily expect republicans to have or admit.
what was literally the very first thing republicans tried to do once they controlled all branches of government?



This should be shouted from every rooftop from now until november. Dems have admitted they need to focus on the corruption angle, but my god are they missing a lot of opportunities.
07-26-2018 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Where did the Federalists go when they went extinct?

These people you are talking about have few scruples. They desire power. Some of them will become Bernie Dems and some of them will become Never Trumpers in the GOP.
those seem like really bad ways to attain power. no, they will screw over the bernie dems as much as possible, even if it hurts the dem party as a whole. no, especially if it does so. they would prefer to keep their position and have the party lose than the converse. they would rather live in sht, ie live under republican control, than use a shovel.
07-26-2018 , 09:17 PM
The DemE has done a good job respecting the left wing of the party and incorporating their ideas and people into the party as a whole.
07-26-2018 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
The DemE has done a good job respecting the left wing of the party and incorporating their ideas and people into the party as a whole.
07-26-2018 , 10:26 PM
Ideas a bit, and who knows how genuine that is. People? Seems like definitely not.
07-27-2018 , 10:08 AM
Three-quarters of House Democrats voted for this, including Beto


https://twitter.com/rtyson82/status/1022521449331019776
07-27-2018 , 10:16 AM
I guess you'll have to add him to the no true leftist list.
07-27-2018 , 10:28 AM
idk what good voting against the defense budget would bring for beto just 3+ months outside of his TX senate election

      
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