Ross Perot got 19% of the vote which was the third best for a third party and that was only ever bested by ex-Presidents (TR and M.Fillmore). He may well have won if he were nominated for either major party.

And the idea was to take the ****ty parts of Friendster and Myspace and combine them into something unholy.

Oh man, I was grunching, quite obviously, because holy **** Subfallen, holy ****ing ****.

I think he opposes smog in china

Can we nominate the Winklevoss twins to be co-presidents? If so, I'm putting all my eggs in that basket.

The most bizarre part of these dweebs worshiping tech dweebs is they don't even seem to realize the tech history. The concept of small-F facebook has existed since the beginning of the internet, it just needed internet access to become the equivalent of a common and basic utility, and Zuckerburg was the guy in the chair when the music stopped. And now the Subfallens of the world have bestowed the title upon him as King Of All Internet. What about the people who actually invented the thing before him? Well, hopefully the Good King Zuckerburg will grant them a job.

Zuck's existence, well beyond the Thiels et al, is the personification of everything that is wrong with everything. He manifested his destiny on the backs of the thankless thousands who built the infrastructure and ideas he benefited from. The Subfallens look at Compuserve as a quaint relic but Facebook as the pinnacle of human achievement.

p.s. My father an alpha-tester for an online play money casino in the early 80s.

p.p.s. Why is Zuck's face so ****ing greasy all the time? It's like he slathers on a layer of popcorn butter before he goes out in public.

He was leading in the polls at one point and got 19% despite literally dropping out of the race for 3 months.

Plus he won 2 out of the 3 debates so guess Trolly's memory is slipping in his old age.

Trump would destroy Zuck in the debates even worse than he destroyed low energy Jeb.

Not that Trolly said anything really wrong, but I was thinking based on his age that his memory of Perot was from '96 more than '92.

I repeat, Steve Wozniak for tech dweeb POTUS!

I guess I wasn't including Ron Paul fans when I said "we were all laughing at Perot." Also, lol.




But man, remember when R's thought Bill Clinton was underqualified because he was merely a state governor?

why would zuckerbrg quit a job in which he rules 2 billion users, and take a job where he governs 350 million?

He probably is the only one I would vote for.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.d805bda83aae

didnt zuck hack harvards site and set up a way for ppl to rank the in coming females pictures by how attractive they are/

I mean, thats pretty tasteless at best but in actuality its just straight up misogynistic.

then the way he started facebook by stealing the idea and the groundwork from those twins while leading them on for months via email that he was working on it. and then the way that he fired his cofounder and stole his ownership stake.

zuck is pretty slimy and has bit of a checkered history and is undoubtedly socially awkward.

Oh man so much to unpack in that. For one, it was a double dogwhistle. It appealed to the idea that Clinton was dumb because he was a southerner, and the fact that he was supposed to be a liberal/hippy type so obviously he was stupid, nevermind the fact that he had already been Governor. But you saw the same criticism, even moreso, come out on Obama when he was called a "community organizer" regardless of the fact that he was a freakin' United States Senator, one of the highest positions you can achieve in government. This time it was a double dogwhistle again--the liberal/hippy idea was repeated, but now replace being a southern hick with being black and you get the idea. But then you look at Sarah Palin, the precursor in many ways to Trump, and you wonder how many in the Republican party even believe their own B.S. about our candidates being "underqualified."

And now with Trump it has been boiled down so much that a lot of conservatives admitted the real reason why they would vote Republican no matter the nominee: the Supreme Court. Again they've outsmarted us, realizing that the Supreme Court, voting rights, and redistricting efforts are far more important than almost anything else right now. They're focused on those issues while we're largely chasing our own tails. We need to start thinking about how to seriously win elections, and soon, because we're rapidly approaching an inflection point where the elections just won't give us a chance any more, regardless of our overwhelming popularity.

hastendan is the easiest put-on-ignore-list ever (i think it took me about 2 weeks to add him). he's either a closet right winger who pretends to have liberal sensibilities, or he's one of those deranged and clueless berniebros who pulled the lever for trump because they hate hillary so much. i lean more towards the former than the latter, but he's despicable regardless. either way, nothing you ever read from him will ever be of any value, and fly has been 100% on the money about his bull****tery the whole time.

"A poll conducted by CNN/USA TODAY on Oct. 11 found that of those watching, 47 percent rated Perot the winner, 30 percent voted Clinton and 16 percent voted Bush."

http://cgi.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/.../history/1992/

"Exit polls revealed that 35% of voters would have voted for Perot if they believed he could win.[104] Contemporary analysis reveals that Perot could have won the election if the polls prior to the election had shown the candidate with a larger share, preventing the wasted vote mindset."

"He gained relatively little support in the Southern states"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_P...campaign,_1992

Did you think I just made that up the way you made up the "laughed him off the stage" part?

It's just typical anti-independent, anti third-party hate from mainstream Dems.

That's kinda what I was going for, though I'd put Woz as an anti-dweeb.

More Woz, less Jobs.

Again: I should have qualified "we", bc I'm sure the future Ron Paul/Trump slappies thought he did a swell job. This seems very tangential to the point I was making vis a vis the conservative push to delegitimize gov't and fill political offices with unqualified businessbros.

Mocking Obama's work as a community organizer is another example of this. Isn't organizing communities part of how retail politics gets done? Why is this not a legitimate pursuit?

I do think his relative lack of experience was a valid criticism, though McCain kind of undercut that by picking Palin as a running mate.

If you were a big corporation and you wanted to have as much influence as possible, you'd love a guy with lots of direct ties to the business community who also doesn't know much about government to be President. It's much easier to lobby a blank slate than someone who already has a coherent set of ideals and values, and always easier to pull one over on somebody who doesn't know how the system works.

The dirty secret at the heart of the tech revolution is that it's all network effects Facebook isn't a billion dollar business because of it's genius innovation it just happened to get the critical mass of people where myspace et al didn't. Ebay sucks but it's the only place to sell because it's the only place people buy, same for Amazon recently. Party Poker wasn't the best software nor really good at anything else but the fish played there so the regs played there so the new fish played there and so on.

There's an efficiency (and therefore profit) created when we all go to the same place to do stuff but the platform didn't "create" that efficiency and doesn't really deserve that profit it just happened to be the place we all decided to go. It could just as easily have been any other place and the outcome would have been exactly the same except a different logo and a different billionaire for people to worship.

Meh, it was an honest question. I thought some supporters were saying it was in issue during the campaign, and gave it some weight just a few days after the loss.

https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/...rys-vs-amazon/