How to resolve this:

and this?

Only one way I can think of...

Just because they are frauds does not mean I would not vote for them if the other candidate is more scary. Voting is picking the less of 2 evils. Obama is turning out to look like the hero. If the party loses the senate and house, I sure hope he vetoes everything these guys want especially spending.

I think people on both sides of that issue use only their bias to see part of the full picture. They look at tax rates in such and such decade or period and say, "Look, the durh dur tax rates caused all that economic growth!"

As if in the U.S. it wasn't mostly a demographics inspired growth story through all the post WWII years. And just a different, much stronger economy all together back then. I think the tax rhetoric is mostly like spurious correlation.

But you're wrong. There's literally hundreds of speeches out there in which Ron Paul would tell you exactly how he would cut spending. If you're calling him a fraud because the rest of congress doesn't go along....that's kind of silly.

lol the supreme court is going to pass a law ending abortion? Or sanction one passed by congress?

Or is the supreme court going to make a ruling that its a state issue?

Can you comprehend the difference and effect of same?

hey he was on a roll

Independently of this post, I've been thinking that I'm a member of the same party for some time now. I'd been debating whether it was worth making a formal forum announcement, but I'd like to officially change my forum alignment from "typical lefty mod" to "we're all ****ed."

YES. THE "We're ****ed" party is gaining steam, and more importantly, booze!

Minutes from last meeting:

9:00 Meeting called to order
9:00 Commence Drinking
2:00 Split a cab home

Tom,

Move to NY, and then we'll beat out the "Rent is too damn high" party for a slot on the ballot for governor.

My bar is vast, but more importantly, I'm an innovator. I invented two delicious cocktails just last weekend.

I was always apathetic about politics - neither party really fit my needs. My outlook for the future was dim. But then I found the "we're all ****ed" party, and now I have hope!

Except for one little problem

I happen to have some footage from our last meeting as well:

That's change I can believe in!

And unlike SOME parties, we're gaining the Latino vote too!

We drunks....we're organazizing!

I nominate Wook for party bartender, and Tom for inebriated group spokesperson. And if INAR wants to join obviously house(d) stand up comic.

This is incredibly random.

The socialists. The tea party was born out of a Rick Santelli rant on the evils of the socialist leanings of the current administration. Tea party (check the historical reference of the name) is about one thing and one thing only. Economics! Do you want a fair playing field or do want to subsidize idiots and morons through ridiculous government spending and programs? For me that answer is easy.

The worst form of capitalism is Crony Capitalism...
Where politicians transfer billions to an Elite Class...
Directly from the Middle Class...
Business as usual in Russia, Pakistan, and, now, USA.

This is the way Chicago thinks and works.

Americans no longer trust their government.

The way to roll this back is Limited Government...
As constitutionally mandated by the Founding Fathers...
Which is the #1 platform of the Tea Party.

People who *** muddy the Tea Party waters ***...
By dragging is various secondary social issues...
And try to misdirect the debate to "rape and incest"...
Are carrying water for the Dems and Crony Capitalism...
And following the Obama White House Playbook.

Exactly...I've never heard any tea party candidate espouse these alleged tea party positions. And I've attended several tea party meetings in my area.

Might as well delete the entire thread because the OP's assumptions are wrong. Besides the country has been going bankrupt for the last 100 years...and yet...it will be the tea party that destroys the country?

Don't post threads while you're drunk or high.
Posts like these could happen.

These two points are ridiculous.

Possibly go into Iran?
Seriously? Have you seen any evidence of this?
The Tea Party is not the neoconservatives from the early 2000s.
Your claims regarding the tea party's platform are completely absurd.

I agree a 100% with you.
And the fact the tea party has never achieve power and yet...the OP claims they'll will destroy the country? The powers in charge now are doing a great job of destroying the country w/o any help from the tea party.

THERE IS NO TEA PARTY. How many times do I have to say it?


(If there is, please link me to it)

There is a Tea Party movement and a Tea Party ideology but you are correct that there is no Tea Party Party.

Thank you!

(And thank you for giving me the inspiration for the title of my next short story: "What We Talk About When We Talk About the Tea Party Party").

There ain't no Tea party like my nanna's tea party.