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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
Uhh, no. Just because the means of production are in the workers hands, doesn't mean that peeps can't be divided in other ways.
If the workers own and control the means of production. There are no other classes.
Is it understood and agreed that capitalism is a class system?
Ruling class own the means of production and benefit from the system.
Middle class own and work tm of p in small businesses
Working class are wage slaves tm of p.
The working class after the revolution become the owners of tm of p. The old ruling class and middle class cease to be. No need for them, they wither away.
One class left. With a real, active and equal democracy to organise society based on it's needs.
Equal, fair and free.
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
This isn't some kinda theoretical question. Find a buncha niches without significant boss/worker hierarchy. See which ones have significant male/female hierarchy. Or better yet, which one have a cisnormal/other hierarchy. And WTF scare-quoting patriarchy.
So because history has not experienced communism, it never can? It can only be theoretical until it happens. That doesn't mean it isn't possible to plan or consider an abstract, that could be reality. It's just a matter of using imagination. Someting humans are excellent at.
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
Sure. And that's a form of socialism. The means of production, the hunting and gathering fields, were the hands of the workers, the hunters and gatherers. The archeological records are clear: woman were beaten, beaten badly, all throughout human history. That's patriarchy.
LMFAO !!!1!
Then what a goal genuine socialism would be, an end to injustice, discrimination, poverty, war, enviromental abuse and all the other wastes of capitalism.