from ever holding public office? Below is a documentary on the CFR. It seems like it is a pool used to select virtually everyone in power. I think we should permanently ban everyone in this secret society from ever holding public office or working in a management position of a bank or corporation. It seems unfair they can get all the good jobs, while we must compete for all the leftovers. Seems they select a lot of brats and elitists from snobby schools and put them in positions of power.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN_LYk1nDEYhttp://

Is this meant to be funny?

CFR is definitely not a secret society.

Connected to secret societies for sure, but calling it a secret society is silly.

This thread doesn't have to be a disaster or end up being locked. Discussing the CFR's role in America politics could be fruitful.

No one can deny that the CFR is one of, if the not most influential organization in America poltiics.

O rly?

Well, when people make posts like yours it will greatly increase the chances.

No.

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I think you would need a constitutional amendment to do so because such a ban would almost certainly violate the right to free association among other constitutional provisions.

And this...

Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOAk-7F1EVU

I always liked this clip of Cheney talking about being a former director of the CFR. There is another video of the same thing that I'm too lazy to find that freezes on his expression right at the end which is great because his expression is.......pure evil

Oh, no you don't, you ain't getting off that easy:

More about the secret society stuff, please..

Do they wears funny hats like the Shriners?

Best reason to belong to a secret society imo.

Who's "we"?

This is essentially asking, "Should members of the CFR in power ban members of the CFR from having any power?"

even if it were technically possible it would only lead to a organizational name change and increased secrecy.

First of all, as someone pointed out above, banning people from one group is not Constitutional. And, if you think you're against the CFR, the chances are that you're a constitutionalist of one stripe or the other who's just learning about how things really get done.

Second, the CFR is not a homogeneous group. I know people like to be able to look at labels and be able to start categorizing people in the "good guy" or "bad guy" category.

Yes, the CFR overtly promotes many themes which are antithetical to what many Americans hold dear, but this does not really mean that everyone who's ever been a member or is a member now is of the same mindset.

The CFR is largely an intellectual engine and is, on the one hand, very wonkish, and, on the other, has somewhat of a "country club" feel to it. As a whole, the group has a very globalist feel to it and they even have a rather large project devoted to global governance.

The CFR is not a secret society, though many of its members are members of various secret societies and groups. The CFR has a much larger membership than most of the more secretive groups. In fact, the CFR is not really that secretive at all. They publish a periodical called Foreign Affairs that is very interesting to read.

The aforementioned stuff is fairly elementary for learning American politics.

As an aside, if someone's trying to talk politics with you and they don't know about the CFR and Foreign Affairs, you can pretty much bet that their understanding of the American political process is near zero and their opinion is likely to be 100% pure garbage.

Only the Omegas could do that

This.

Behold, A White Horse....

(That's always my first thought when I see the logo...)

Yeah, along with the Napoleon painting depicting the battle of pyramids


Throw in the latin word "VBIQVE" - meaning "everywhere". And you got yourself a perfectly normal nothing to see here group emblem...

Can't we just ban everyone from holding political office already?

Belonging to a society is not in itself a problem. Public disclosure of membership though would let voters make an informed choice.

We who pay their salaries and to whom they take oaths of office to serve.

i'd rather have corrupt politicians being farmed in the CFR than the state so liberally picking and choosing 1st amendment properties

For a "secret" society, they're rather open about their membership.

They're not really a secret society. The truth of the matter is rather complicated, I'm afraid.

Let's just say that not all members are equal. The society itself is non-secret. There are, however, secrets contained within that are not even close to being mutually exclusive with membership itself.

Most members are invited in so that they can be persuaded to tow the line of those that are insiders.

Reminds me of the Calin line that said something like, "If you think you're in the club, you're not."