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01-04-2012 , 01:01 AM

#11501

fezjones

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redgrape

That speech was pretty good. It was funny to see how amped the army dude was, it would've been better if he was more of a somber speaker.

he also invented a new state, "ohiowa"

01-04-2012 , 01:05 AM

#11502

Fermion5

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Article: Ron Paul May Have Just Secretly Won Iowa

01-04-2012 , 01:10 AM

#11503

AKSpartan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fermion5

Article: Ron Paul May Have Just Secretly Won Iowa

Can someone explain this?

01-04-2012 , 01:14 AM

#11504

BurningSquirrel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSpartan

Can someone explain this?

+1

what does "non binding mean"

this caucus thing is madness , even democrats (anyone) can vote and the reslts do not matter, there are no seats given for %?

01-04-2012 , 01:14 AM

#11505

tzwien

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No idea.

01-04-2012 , 01:15 AM

#11506

AKSpartan

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Quote:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/1/prweb9073084.htm

CIA Bin Laden Unit Chief Endorses Rep. Ron Paul

Scheuer writes, “Any other Republican candidate or a reelected Obama will keep lying to Americans by claiming that we are being attacked because of our liberties, gender-equality laws, and elections rather than because of Washington’s constant intervention in the Islamic world. This now two-decade-old lie – which is abetted by most of the media – has hidden from Americans the fact that all of the would-be Islamist attackers who have been captured in this country were motivated by the invasion of Iraq, U.S. support for Israel, or some other U.S. government action in the Muslim world.”

01-04-2012 , 01:21 AM

#11507

fezjones

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RP's foreign policy seems similar to louis c.k.

01-04-2012 , 01:28 AM

#11508

Barrin6

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If I could show my friend one video of Ron Paul or Libertarianism which should it be? He doesn't know who Ron Paul is but he's interested in why I am so involved in politics lately

01-04-2012 , 01:28 AM

#11509

AlexM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jungle survivor

Do states have a right to outlaw abortion, General Tsao?
What would Ron Paul say?

Do people have a right to not tolerate murder in their communities?

The abortion issue isn't about states having rights, it's about 2 different individual rights coming into conflict due to differing unprovable beliefs and leaving it up the states instead of unjustly trying to impose the views of one side on the other.

01-04-2012 , 01:28 AM

#11510

ludacris

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We elected delegates to the county convention, some of those delegates get elected to the state, and then some of those get elected to the national convention.

In order to be elected to be a delegate you had to stick around late and then people voted on delegates they would send.

01-04-2012 , 01:31 AM

#11511

Fermion5

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrin6

If I could show my friend one video of Ron Paul or Libertarianism which should it be? He doesn't know who Ron Paul is but he's interested in why I am so involved in politics lately

how long of a video do you want ? does your friend oriented conservative/liberal or other?

I am partial to this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWxaGRZ7Nrs

01-04-2012 , 01:34 AM

#11512

Fermion5

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Lew Rockwell blog post: Grand Theft Iowa?
no clue who the author is or how reliable the information is.

01-04-2012 , 01:35 AM

#11513

PerDoom

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhxBM8ebECo

best ron paul video imo

01-04-2012 , 01:36 AM

#11514

Max Raker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexM

No...there is no middle ground. If abortion is murder the federal government should force states to disallow it....if it is just a medical procedure that only requires the consent of a doctor and patient they must prevent the states from outlawing it.

01-04-2012 , 01:36 AM

#11515

ZeroPointMachine

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fermion5

Article: Ron Paul May Have Just Secretly Won Iowa

Unfortunately, the Iowa GOP power brokers will simply shut down the whole process if it starts to go in RPs favor. See Nevada 2008....

Quote:

According to a Wall Street Journal article published July 18, 2008, “Citing a lack of interest, the Nevada Republican Party has called off its state convention and will instead pick its delegates to the national convention by private conference call. The state party broke up its original convention in April when supporters of Ron Paul hijacked the proceedings and tried to elect delegates for their candidate to the national GOP convention in September. Party officials tried to reconvene on July 26, but they needed a quorum of 675 and received only 300 RSVPs…”

The RP people were better organized and knew exactly who they were voting for as delegates to the national convention. The rest of the party was scattered because Romney(who won the caucus by a Mormon landslide) had dropped out and nobody was terribly excited about going to Minneapolis to support McCain. When they started counting the votes, they realized they were going to send a Ron Paul delegation and shut down the convention.

This game is rigged.

01-04-2012 , 01:39 AM

#11516

tannenj

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barrin,

you could go several different ways w/ this.

fermion's suggestion is cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi1nx...eature=related

(more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHB2I83_N_k)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=vMe1CJ2vFuI

01-04-2012 , 01:40 AM

#11517

AlexM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Raker

1. There is no objective provable answer to this question.

2. Even if there were, what people believe is their reaity and forcibly imposing your reality on them is evil, even if you're actually right.

Do you also support outlawing religion? Same difference really.

01-04-2012 , 01:41 AM

#11518

Fermion5

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The Morton Downey appearance is a terrible video to introduce someone to Ron Paul.

01-04-2012 , 01:43 AM

#11519

jungle survivor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexM

That is the state having a right. Why the sophistry?

01-04-2012 , 01:43 AM

#11520

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tzwien

I'd sit by and watch. Genocide sucks, but the government shouldn't spend the public's money by stepping in. If people want to help out, they can send their own money or go over there and fight. Our government minding its own business is exactly what it should be doing.

Wow just wow. Not even about sending soldiers to die but about money. People dying in droves? Don't spend my money. Oh by the way you're a baby-killer for supporting Obama. just I don't have words

01-04-2012 , 01:44 AM

#11521

fluorescenthippo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fermion5

Ron Paul won Jefferson County again. This time with ~49% of the vote.

i want to go to there

01-04-2012 , 01:44 AM

#11522

tannenj

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fermion5

The Morton Downey appearance is a terrible video to introduce someone to Ron Paul.

well yeah ... but perhaps not if the person has a good sense of humor

01-04-2012 , 01:45 AM

#11523

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tzwien

Wow just wow. Not even about sending soldiers to die but about money. People dying in droves? Children, whole families being slaughtered in scenes of incomprehensible horror? Meh. Don't spend my money. Oh by the way you're a baby-killer for supporting Obama.

I have no words.

Read this and tell me you wouldn't lift a finger or spend money to stop it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

01-04-2012 , 01:46 AM

#11524

jackgck

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I think the entrance polls and the initial lead made it feel worse when Romney and Santorum started pulling away, but the sting is starting to go away. Paul will place 2nd in NH and we have Rand in 2016? Uhhh