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07-11-2011 , 07:17 AM

#1126

LirvA

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07-11-2011 , 08:52 AM

#1127

Aaralynn

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Good work Lirv

07-11-2011 , 09:04 AM

#1128

LirvA

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thx

07-11-2011 , 11:01 AM

#1129

Fermion5

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lol at central planner Milton Friedman being the person he looks up to.

LirvA you should think about posting on ronpaulforums or dailypaul to try to generate more interest.

07-11-2011 , 12:08 PM

#1130

General Tsao

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LirvA

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/contact-us/

I just sent an email invite and passed along twoplustwo's number. Feel free to send an email invite too if you'd like.

For what it's worth, under subject, I chose event/appearance request, as I thought that was most appropriate.

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Originally Posted by General Tsao

DONE

Quote:

Thanks,

I guess there must be some discussion about this on the forum, because I've received several similar requests this morning.

I have forwarded your suggestion to the staff member in charge of social media.

Have a great day!

woot?

07-11-2011 , 12:30 PM

#1131

AKSpartan

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"Ron Paul wouldn't be my first choice."

07-11-2011 , 12:48 PM

#1132

NeBlis

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSpartan

"Ron Paul wouldn't be my first choice."

not enough blowing up of brown people LDO

07-11-2011 , 04:20 PM

#1133

LirvA

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General for mod!

07-11-2011 , 08:56 PM

#1134

Redgrape

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RP got 10% in Iowa last year, right? Given RP supporters tend to be pretty diehard, chances that number goes up?

07-11-2011 , 11:12 PM

#1135

Fermion5

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Redgrape

RP got 10% in Iowa last year, right? Given RP supporters tend to be pretty diehard, chances that number goes up?

iowa polls show him below 10% at the moment. I understand your logic, but who knows what will happen. Not everyone who supports him is a die hard converted libertarian for life.

Maybe one reason he won't get 10% is b/c last time he was the only small govt conservative. Now every candidate says they represent the "tea party" and could take votes from Ron. Huckabee won Iowa handedly last time and Bachmann may do the same.

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07-11-2011 , 11:22 PM

#1136

Fermion5

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Ron Paul on the Importance of the Ames Iowa Straw Poll

Ron Paul on WHO Radio in Iowa 07/11/11

Ron and Rand Paul on KTRH Radio Houston, TX 7/11/11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Is it just me or does it seem like RP's heart isnt really in it this time?

He basically seems to have no fire. Last time he seemed eager to mix it up with the idiots, constantly owning Giuliani et al. This time he just seems resigned to lose even though conditions are ideal (i.e. all the stuff he said would happen 4 years ago has happened).

Watch the 1st video above and tell me if you change your mind.

07-11-2011 , 11:59 PM

#1137

Max Raker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fermion5

iowa polls show him below 10% at the moment. I understand your logic, but who knows what will happen. Not everyone who supports him is a die hard converted libertarian for life.

It could go down due to higher voter turn out in the primaries because of anger over Obama. But his results are low enough to where they can probably go up or down by 20% from little more than noise.

07-12-2011 , 06:30 AM

#1138

General Tsao

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fermion5

Ron Paul on the Importance of the Ames Iowa Straw Poll

lol "stay home and listen to the president"

07-12-2011 , 11:45 AM

#1139

Bigdaddydvo

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Grrrr, not happy about this just released decision:

Ron Paul won't seek congressional term in 2012

Quote:

LAKE JACKSON — After serving almost 24 years in the U.S. House of Representatives, Congressman Ron Paul told The Facts this morning he will not be seeking another term for the District 14 seat.

Paul, 75, will instead focus on his quest for the presidency in 2012.

“I felt it was better that I concentrate on one election,” Paul said. “It’s about that time when I should change tactics.”

His announcement will give enough time for anyone with aspirations for his seat to think about running, he said. Paul didn’t want to wait for filing in the 2012 primary to let people know he wasn’t seeking reelection.

“I didn’t want to hold off until in December,” he said. “I thought it shouldn’t be any later than now.”

Paul has served 12 terms in Congress. District 14 encompasses a 10-county area along the Gulf Coast.

“The people in the area have supported me for many years,” he said.

Before turning to politics, Paul was an obstetrician based in Lake Jackson. The Pennsylvania native served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force before moving to the area to start his practice.

Paul first was elected to the U.S. House in 1976 and served four terms before stepping down in 1984. After Republicans took over Congress in 1994, Paul said he felt inspired to run again and sought the District 14 seat in 1996. He beat incumbent Republican U.S. Rep. Greg Laughlin in the 1996 primary and won the general election against Democrat Charles “Lefty” Morris.

Paul has held the seat since 1996 and has fended off challengers both from his party and from Democrats. In the last election in 2010, Paul easily beat three Republican challengers in the primary and then won reelection against Democrat Robert Pruett in the general election.

Brazoria County Republican Chair Yvonne Dewey said she was not expecting Paul’s announcement, made exclusively to The Facts early Tuesday.

“I’m surprised,” she said. “He has won very handily in the last few elections. He’s hung in there all these years.”

While he has faced many opponents in his own party in recent years, no one has formally announced running for his nomination in the March 2012 primary, Dewey said.

“I think it will be treated as a wide-open seat,” she said. “You will have a lot of candidates on both sides.”

He unsuccessfully ran for president as the Libertarian Party candidate in 1988, and in 2008 unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for the White House.

Paul said while he is vacating the District 14 seat, he feels his chances for the 2012 Republican nomination are much better than in 2008, when he set fundraising records driven by the Internet.

“We have a lot more support right now,” he said. “Things are doing well for us.”

Paul is traveling the country in his bid for the White House and said he has spent twice the amount of time in New Hampshire and Iowa this year than he did in 2008. Throughout his time in politics, Paul has had a stance of limited government, reduced federal spending, individual liberties and a non-interventionist foreign policy.

“I have been talking about this for years,” he said Tuesday. “I will always be doing that. But not in the U.S. Congress.”

07-12-2011 , 11:56 AM

#1140

qdmcg

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Heh, that's crazy imo. I mean his staff knows his shot at the Presidency is 0%.

Quite confused by that. What will he do afterwards? As a voice for freedom, I suspect that being a member of the House has greatly enhanced his effectiveness. Maybe he'll throw his support behind a similar libertarian.

07-12-2011 , 12:05 PM

#1141

Bigdaddydvo

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Senate in 2012 perhaps?

07-12-2011 , 12:47 PM

#1142

freedom.fries

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigdaddydvo

Senate in 2012 perhaps?

wouldn't be possible unless he runs as an independent/3rd party since he would miss the primary. a longshot 3rd party/indy run at the presidency would be more likely.

07-12-2011 , 12:50 PM

#1143

Wynton

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What will Paul do next? How about retire? He's an old dude, even older than me (and I feel like retiring myself.)

07-12-2011 , 03:49 PM

#1144

Fermion5

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Ron Paul Says 1.3 Trillion Dollar Debt Owed To Federal Reserve Is Not Real! 7/11/11

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Originally Posted by Redgrape

RP got 10% in Iowa last year, right? Given RP supporters tend to be pretty diehard, chances that number goes up?

ARG Iowa poll- Ron Paul in 3rd place at 14%

This poll was done July 5-11 among 600 likely caucus goers.

PRESDIENT – IOWA – GOP CAUCUS (ARG)
Bachmann 21%
Romney 18%
Paul 14%
Palin 11%
Gingrich 8%
Santorum 5%
Huntsman 3%
Cain 2%
Giuliani 2%
Johnson 0%
Pawlenty 2%
Perry 2%
Roemer 0%

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pre...rimary/rep/ia/

07-12-2011 , 04:17 PM

#1145

Max Raker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qdmcg

He is quite old. So he might not do anything.

07-12-2011 , 06:07 PM

#1146

AtThe Aquarium

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Given the ardor of Paul's supporters he stands to gain from the unique caucus system in Iowa as well.

07-12-2011 , 06:10 PM

#1147

Aaralynn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AtThe Aquarium

Given the ardor of Paul's supporters he stands to gain from the unique caucus system in Iowa as well.

Could you break this down more? I'm not entirely familiar with the Iowa system.

07-12-2011 , 06:17 PM

#1148

AtThe Aquarium

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_ca..._Party_process

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Voters are presented blank sheets of paper with no candidate names on them. After listening to some campaigning for each candidate by caucus participants, they write their choices down and the Republican Party of Iowa tabulates the results at each precinct and transmits them to the media.

Also, not mentioned in the wiki, when those caucausing with a certain candidate realize their 1st choice candidate doesn't have a chance they shift allegiance to their 2nd choice. It becomes like a popularity contest, which, I believe, favors the candidate who generates the most interest rather than who is perceived as most electable in the general.