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12-16-2011 , 01:00 AM

#8776

tzwien

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Having a draft is wrong on just about every single level.

12-16-2011 , 01:01 AM

#8777

The 13th 4postle

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@Phillipklein

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Ron Paul dodges Hannity on his racist newsletters. The man is an utter disgrace.

@arifleischer

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I wish Ron Paul stuck 2 economics and didn't talk foreign policy. He seems ok if Israel is wiped off the map. That's not ok w me.

12-16-2011 , 01:02 AM

#8778

Barrin6

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Originally Posted by The 13th 4postle

The voters aren't dumb. Paul is going to win Iowa. Mark my words. His base is fired up now like never before.

I hope you are right, but this is Iowa, I don't think people out there are smart

12-16-2011 , 01:04 AM

#8779

Fermion5

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Ron Paul with Hannity Post Debate Interview

12-16-2011 , 01:07 AM

#8780

Fermion5

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Missed it live, but Paul was REAL CLOSE to walking out of the interview at 3:09 of the youtube.

12-16-2011 , 01:08 AM

#8781

ligastar

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Originally Posted by tzwien

Having a draft is wrong on just about every single level.

Please educate me on these levels. Your lone sentence taught me nothing.

12-16-2011 , 01:11 AM

#8782

Fermion5

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Ron Paul got 1000+ Facebook likes in the past 3 hours (2 hours of debate plus 1 hour post debate). That is a crazy amount of Likes to get in a 3 hour span.

12-16-2011 , 01:12 AM

#8783

Fermion5

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Tea Party Moneybomb fundraiser for Ron Paul is tomorrow December 16th, 2011.

12-16-2011 , 01:13 AM

#8784

FleeingFish

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Originally Posted by ligastar

All those poor Americans with no education want to be there? Please.

The only people to say this are ones that never to serve and think they can speak for the majority of the military. You ever wonder why the majority of the military votes conservative? Military service goes beyond each individual conflict and knows its more about serving. Many will not go to great lengths to share this as its rather cheesy to say out loud but despite the political realities of any given situation its more about doing the job of a soldier irregardless of their political beliefs, economic class, and education.

Besides that, no one wants to be in war, no matter if your the queen of England or a homeless guy on w. owens but it is nice to know that the person next to you volunteered rather than was forced to be there.

12-16-2011 , 01:14 AM

#8785

will1530

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Originally Posted by ligastar

Please educate me on these levels. Your lone sentence taught me nothing.

I'll start.
1. Forcing someone to kill another human being is beyond repugnant.
2. Forcing someone to fight for a cause they may not believe in is disgusting.
3. Having thousands of disgruntled conscripted troops hurts the morale of the military as a whole.

12-16-2011 , 01:16 AM

#8786

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Ron Paul has raised $50k in the first 15 minutes of the moneybomb. This is more than he gets in an average 24 hour period.

12-16-2011 , 01:17 AM

#8787

Fermion5

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PolitiFact says Bachmann lied about Iran in a November debate

12-16-2011 , 01:18 AM

#8788

ligastar

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Originally Posted by FleeingFish

The only people to say this are ones that never to serve [ ...]

In your opinion, say over the last 10 years, what % enlisted to serve their country and what % enlisted to avoid working at Burger King and to start a career in some capacity?

12-16-2011 , 01:20 AM

#8789

ligastar

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What is your view of developed countries that require one year mandatory military service by male citizens?

12-16-2011 , 01:21 AM

#8790

fluorescenthippo

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Originally Posted by FleeingFish

If he somehow gets the nomination, this will kill him in the general. This is bad.

its bad, yes. but as far as i know this is all they can get him on regardless of his truth. which in comparison is very good. thats assuming the media isn't biased though

12-16-2011 , 01:21 AM

#8791

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AP Factcheck on this debate: Bachmann wrong about IAEA report

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MICHELE BACHMANN: "We have an IAEA report that just recently came out that said literally Iran is within just months of being able to obtain that (a nuclear) weapon."

RON PAUL: "There is no U.N. report that said that. It's totally wrong, what you just said."
Bachmann: "It's the IAEA report."

THE FACTS: As Paul said, the report of the International Atomic Energy Agency does not state that Iran is within months of having nuclear arms. The U.N. agency report does suggest that Iran conducted secret experiments whose sole purpose is the development of nuclear weapons but did not put a time frame on when Iran might succeed in building a bomb, and it made no final conclusion on Tehran's intent.
Bachmann also erred by arguing that Iran has "stated they will use it (a nuclear weapon) against the United States."
Iran vehemently rejects that it is developing a nuclear bomb, let alone that it plans to drop one on the U.S.

12-16-2011 , 01:22 AM

#8792

will1530

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Originally Posted by ligastar

In your opinion, say over the last 10 years, what % enlisted to serve their country and what % enlisted to avoid working at Burger King and to start a career in some capacity?

Why is this even remotely relevant? Anyone enlisting in the last 10 years enlisted during a time of war. Meaning they knew there was a decent chance they would be called to fight in a war. What does it matter what their reasoning is? BTW, I'm pretty sure I've heard every conceivable answer to the, "why did you join the military question?" The answers are as unique as the individuals who choose to join.

12-16-2011 , 01:23 AM

#8793

will1530

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Originally Posted by ligastar

What is your view of developed countries that require one year mandatory military service by male citizens?

I have nothing but complete disdain for forcing people to serve.

12-16-2011 , 01:30 AM

#8794

ligastar

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Originally Posted by will1530

Why is this even remotely relevant? Anyone enlisting in the last 10 years enlisted during a time of war. Meaning they knew there was a decent chance they would be called to fight in a war. What does it matter what their reasoning is? BTW, I'm pretty sure I've heard every conceivable answer to the, "why did you join the military question?" The answers are as unique as the individuals who choose to join.

The bold matters a ton to me.

I ask this b/c I don't think it is as rosy a picture as you are painting it as. I don't believe the majority of enlistees (sp?) over the past 10 years have joined to serve their country (in the sense that these wars rallied them to the cause).

That said, I could be way off here and maybe there are a very large number of young Americans brainwashed and out of touch with reality.

edit to say: over the past 10 years above should be over the past 5 years.

12-16-2011 , 01:30 AM

#8795

FleeingFish

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Originally Posted by ligastar

In your opinion, say over the last 10 years, what % enlisted to serve their country and what % enlisted to avoid working at Burger King and to start a career in some capacity?

You know, I'm willing to bet you have no ****ing clue how insulting you are to people who are in the military.

12-16-2011 , 01:31 AM

#8796

Fermion5

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rut roh, fleeingfish ITT

=)

12-16-2011 , 01:36 AM

#8797

Max Raker

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Originally Posted by FleeingFish

You know, I'm willing to bet you have no ****ing clue how insulting you are to people who are in the military.

I'd bet he has even less of a clue how insulting it is to Burger King employees imo

12-16-2011 , 01:36 AM

#8798

Barcalounger

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Confirmed - Hannity has it out for Ron Paul.

Sean prodded for at least one Ron Paul jab from just about all the guests in his post game show. Then he went after Ron first on running 3rd party, then the newsletters, kept interrupting his answers which weren't good anyway, and Ron looked like he wanted to flee the entire time. Not a good showing at all in that interview. Paul is going to have a steep uphill battle if Fox News organizes a campaign like this against him for the next few weeks.

And seriously Ron, get an answer to the newsletter questions! Name names! Get this crap off your record. It looks like from this thread last page that your aunts and grandpas will soon be getting chain emails on it.