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10-23-2011 , 05:36 PM

#5801

tzwien

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

Seems pretty straightforward to me. We obviously had to invade Iraq and make sure there were no terrorists or wmd's there first, before we could move on to pursuing Osama Bin Laden. You can't put the cart before the horse.

I'm sensing this is a level, but I'll bite.

We could have paid a small group of mercenaries $100 million, or even $1 billion, to go over and capture Bin Laden without invading an entire country. We would have caught him in less than a few months after 9/11. Damn, that would have been way too efficient and good for the economy compared to what actually happened. Think of all the freedoms we would still have if we only did that.

Don't know if it's well known here or not, but Ross Perot actually did something like this. Here's an article: http://feraljundi.com/1742/history-r...-in-iran-1978/

Government militarism just plain blows.

10-23-2011 , 05:37 PM

#5802

Vecernicek

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tannenj

hahaha. to be fair to max (even though he's a douche), i'm the one who started it. it was never about his IQ (obviously, no one gives half a ****). it was always about: "stop going out of your way to quote and troll every pro-RP post you see." pretty simple -- he trolls the thread, i troll him back as a form of social internet justice. "two wrongs don't make a right," but in my case, they make a satisfied forum contributor. i'll leave it alone for a while, though; no one wants to read this back-and-forth idiocy. unfortunately, he probably won't leave it alone until obama secures a second term.

dude, he said take it to PMs.

I wanna read Tsau talk about Ron Pawl

10-23-2011 , 05:47 PM

#5803

MrWookie

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IQ 4 Rollz **** it always stupid. This thread needs to stop being horrible. A lot of people getting a day off for crap in this thread.

10-23-2011 , 06:13 PM

#5804

Fermion5

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no kidding that is a lot of people

10-23-2011 , 07:15 PM

#5805

bgomez89

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a little late but i just watched the RP interview on meet the press. Man that interviewer seemed like such a tool, RP crushed imo.

10-23-2011 , 07:22 PM

#5806

Tyler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

They're useful for weeding out the completely hopeless campaigns like T-Paw, and for convincing people to donate $, but they aren't remotely useful as predictors for the state primary.

^^ and I'm pretty sure Cain got into the spotlight based on his performance in the first debate. And yes, they're irrleevant even when non-RP candidates win them. Bachmann is trailing in every Iowa state poll.

christ this is an awful post. the Ames straw poll has more predictive power than EVERYTHING ELSE COMBINED when it comes to who wins Iowa.

10-23-2011 , 07:25 PM

#5807

General Tsao

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Ames results have been incorrect 2 out of 5 times in predicting who wins Iowa caucuses.

10-23-2011 , 07:38 PM

#5808

Scary_Tiger

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Tsao

Ames results have been incorrect 2 out of 5 times in predicting who wins Iowa caucuses.

One of the top two has won the Iowa caucus every time.

Why Ames Actually Matters by 2+2's Nate tha' Great

10-23-2011 , 07:50 PM

#5809

FlyWf

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Looks pretty good that one of the top two will not be winning it this year.

Also, from that link:

Quote:

Two successes in particular stand out. In 1979, George H.W. Bush won Ames despite polling at just 1 percent in a Des Moines Register survey — he went on to win the Iowa caucus. And in 2007 Mike Huckabee, in the low single digits in both state and national polls, finished second in the straw poll, the first tangible indicator of his upside in Iowa.

Man I ain't like no kind of expert in this or nothing but I'm pretty sure your successes that stand out should involve dudes who won the nomination for President.

10-23-2011 , 08:08 PM

#5810

General Tsao

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fly we're talking about winning the republican contest in iowa which would get me $500 from max that's all that matters guy

10-23-2011 , 08:09 PM

#5811

Tyler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Man I ain't like no kind of expert in this or nothing but I'm pretty sure your successes that stand out should involve dudes who won the nomination for President.

and I'm even MORE sure you need to reread the article, which only discusses Iowa.

10-23-2011 , 09:08 PM

#5812

Fermion5

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Bachmann tries to steal Ron's economic plan

Quote:

“I will shut down the Department of Education. I will shut down the EPA. I will shut down the Department Energy. I will shut down the Department of Interior. I will shut down the Department of Commerce,” Bachmann said.

10-23-2011 , 09:11 PM

#5813

AKSpartan

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It's always so bizarre and hilarious when these shape-shifting suits randomly try to co-opt libertarian positions. I'd put as much weight into that as Obama's ending the wars overseas and easing off marijuana.

10-23-2011 , 10:01 PM

#5814

Low Key

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I don't think we'll ever be a non-warring country. 1. The Dems don't want to appear soft on terrorism or else they might lose an election. 2. The Repubs don't want to lose the backing of the people who run the military industrial complex.

It's sad when the only 2 options in an election are 'pro-war' and 'pro-war'.

10-23-2011 , 10:10 PM

#5815

ALawPoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Low Key

I don't think we'll ever be a non-warring country.

I agree, just like we'll never be a round square.

10-23-2011 , 10:20 PM

#5816

Low Key

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I'm not sure you're being as witty as you think you are, but you're just vague enough to leave me guessing.

10-23-2011 , 11:31 PM

#5817

ludacris

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Even my LOCAL fox news it bashing Paul.

10-23-2011 , 11:34 PM

#5818

ALawPoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Low Key

I'm not sure you're being as witty as you think you are, but you're just vague enough to leave me guessing.

You don't know how witty I think I am. What was vague?

10-24-2011 , 01:55 AM

#5819

Fermion5

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Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 10/24/11: The Tyranny of TSA Highway Checkpoints

10-24-2011 , 02:22 AM

#5820

Low Key

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fermion5

Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 10/24/11: The Tyranny of TSA Highway Checkpoints

Man, getting a really laggy connection. Stops to load every few seconds. Damn private companies discriminating against RP's message!

10-24-2011 , 03:00 AM

#5821

m_reed05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fermion5

Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 10/24/11: The Tyranny of TSA Highway Checkpoints

Wow this is absolutely insane. I had no idea they had started this.

10-24-2011 , 03:02 AM

#5822

Fermion5

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

Wow this is absolutely insane. I had no idea they had started this.

neither did I.

Video: TSA Sets Up Terrorist Check Points Along Tennessee Highways!

10-24-2011 , 03:07 AM

#5823

Low Key

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Quote:

41 likes, 176 dislikes

I'm not sure what the proper way to express my distaste for what is happening in that video is

10-24-2011 , 04:04 AM

#5824

TwoThirtyTwo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

Wow this is absolutely insane. I had no idea they had started this.

Just shows the absurd length the government is going through to "provide safety". The only thing this is going to do is make your average person sit in traffic for hours on the occasion that the highway is having this. Anyone with anything to hide will just take backroads and avoid the risk. They won't find a damn thing and waste more money in the process.

10-24-2011 , 04:12 AM

#5825

m_reed05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tzwien

But newt Gingrich says there are a lot of terrorists and threats and I believe him. We need to hurry up on the Iran war before we need to refocus on Afghanistan and Iraq again.

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