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05-13-2011 , 08:54 PM
while Mathews didn't say that, he did say that Paul would think it was "fine" if people were racist, which is obviously not Paul's position.
05-13-2011 , 10:02 PM
I've turned into the annoying friend who tries to get all his liberal friends to switch parties and vote for RP.

What videos should I share? What are the most convincing youtube clips for RP do you guys think?
05-13-2011 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbabyjesus
Ron Paul on Hardball

Chris Mathews acting like a blowhard.
He is getting better at being confrontational when the host is an idiot. Mathews doesn't really come out of that with the "gotcha" he was going for.
05-13-2011 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sterlinguini
I've turned into the annoying friend who tries to get all his liberal friends to switch parties and vote for RP.
nothing wrong with that. Do a lot of research on your own so you know how to respond with evidence. Just don't be annoying.

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Originally Posted by sterlinguini
What videos should I share? What are the most convincing youtube clips for RP do you guys think?
here are a couple short, visually appealing videos.
Ron Paul "The High Tide" Campaign For Liberty
Ron Paul's What If ?

If they want more comprehensive, longer videos, you can search youtube, filter for longer than 20 min. This Wiki is also comprehensive.
Ron Paul's Full Speech at CPAC 2011
Candidates@Google: Ron Paul
05-13-2011 , 10:15 PM
The Candidates@ one is really good, I re-watched it a couple weeks ago.
05-13-2011 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbabyjesus
Ron Paul on Hardball

Chris Mathews acting like a blowhard.
This, sir, is no act.
05-13-2011 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BurningSquirrel
It is not your utopia that concerns me. It is your complete lack of how transition works - your logic is: "If a lot of people die - they will know"
No, that's just your emotional knee jerk to my logic.

Transition happens multi-dimensionally, and little old ALaw probably doesn't have much to do with it. Like I said before, I think more people will die in the long-run if someone like Ron Paul injects life into the present system.
05-13-2011 , 10:35 PM
05-13-2011 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ALawPoker
No, that's just your emotional knee jerk to my logic.

Transition happens multi-dimensionally, and little old ALaw probably doesn't have much to do with it. Like I said before, I think more people will die in the long-run if someone like Ron Paul injects life into the present system.
This just has no basis in reality at all. A major economic crisis is far more likely to lead to totalitarianism than a free society. Governments love to use public hysteria to expand their power and further reduce personal freedoms. Ron Paul is liberty's best hope right now.
05-13-2011 , 11:18 PM
Ron's boy Rand getting himself into some trouble: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXwDMqjC-A

It's too bad PVN couldn't be there to help Rand make his point. (assuming PVN was equipped with a large screen to show his .jpgs and .gifs, otherwise he couldn't have done much)
05-13-2011 , 11:20 PM
From that hardball link...


Ron Paul: "What we're doing is trying to emphasize that something good and wonderful comes from freedom"


Chris Mathews, in as dismissive a tone as he could possibly muster: "Oh, yeah right"
05-13-2011 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
A major economic crisis is far more likely to lead to totalitarianism than a free society.
Why's that?
05-13-2011 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ALawPoker
Why's that?
Government, time and time again, will create a problem through flawed policies, misconstrue the cause of the problem, and then offer itself as the solution, often times with the "solution" being same policies that created the problem in the first place. And the public buys it every time. And it's never good for individual liberty.
05-13-2011 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
Government, time and time again, will create a problem, misconstrue the cause of the problem, and then offer itself as the solution. And it almost always works.
Right, and that appears to be exactly what Ron Paul is doing. (Just on a higher level than, say, Mitt Romney.)
05-13-2011 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by STA654
Ron's boy Rand getting himself into some trouble: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXwDMqjC-A

It's too bad PVN couldn't be there to help Rand make his point. (assuming PVN was equipped with a large screen to show his .jpgs and .gifs, otherwise he couldn't have done much)
Rand has latched onto a horrible, horrible way to phrase his argument.

I understand where he's coming from, but if (when?) Chris Rock did (does?) a bit about this, I'm quite sure he'd say something along the lines of:

"If democrats have their way, Rand Paul says doctors would be slaves. RAND PAUL says doctors would be slaves. Rand Paul says DOCTORS would be SLAVES. DOCTORS.......would be slaves. Does Rand Paul know a goddamned thing about slaves? NO! IF A DOCTOR doesn't get paid enough, what do you think he's gonna do? He's gonna QUIT. **** it, I'll sell cars.

If a REAL slave don't make enough, what do you think HE'S gonna do? THE SAME **** HE'S BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.

Lemme break down the difference between doctors and slaves:

Doctors have options.

Slaves have no options."
05-13-2011 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ALawPoker
Right, and that appears to be exactly what Ron Paul is doing. (Just on a higher level than, say, Mitt Romney.)
Ron Paul wants the same free society you do, he's just trying to change things gradually from within the system while at the same time spreading the seeds of libertarian ideas and building momentum for the movement. A free society isn't going to come about overnight in a sea of chaos. If it ever comes it's going to be through a slow, painful, gradual process by way of spreading libertarian ideas.
05-13-2011 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
From that hardball link...


Ron Paul: "What we're doing is trying to emphasize that something good and wonderful comes from freedom"


Chris Mathews, in as dismissive a tone as he could possibly muster: "Oh, yeah right"
Also from that, CM says something to the effect "well I dont believe total freedom really works". Yea thats right, the govt's gotta own you at least a bit to make the world go round.

Also the Bill Oreilly one is full of laughs as well.

Oreilly: " Come on Ron, there was an AK IN THE ROOM WITH HIM, HE WAS RUNNING, what do you want us to do, not shoot him?"

Also whoever the guy was at the table: "They say Osama was unarmed, well so were all the people in the WTC." Oh I get it, so we are saying **** the rules now and its just Eye for an Eye balls to the wall eh?
05-14-2011 , 12:04 AM
Saddens me that one of the greatest potential presidents ever doesn't have a real chance because the people are so stupid.
05-14-2011 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
With bonus 'libertarians are racist' declarations for Fly!
soundbite narrative! gotta simply complicated things!
05-14-2011 , 12:52 AM
Matthews is absolutely right though. He wouldn't have voted for the Civil Rights Bill.
Doesn't appear Mr. Paul has read Article VI in his pocket Constitution.
05-14-2011 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mosdef
He is getting better at being confrontational when the host is an idiot. Mathews doesn't really come out of that with the "gotcha" he was going for.
LOL @ U, it's pretty obvious that paul would have allowed the States to continue discriminatory business practices under the guise of property rights in contravention of established constitutional law.
05-14-2011 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
From that hardball link...


Ron Paul: "What we're doing is trying to emphasize that something good and wonderful comes from freedom"


Chris Mathews, in as dismissive a tone as he could possibly muster: "Oh, yeah right"
nice strawman, Chris Matthews hates freedom cuz he wants to take away property owners' rights to exclude minorities from their establishments. lol, "leave it to the states" = Georgia gonna Georgia
05-14-2011 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
Ron Paul wants the same free society you do, he's just trying to change things gradually from within the system while at the same time spreading the seeds of libertarian ideas and building momentum for the movement. A free society isn't going to come about overnight in a sea of chaos. If it ever comes it's going to be through a slow, painful, gradual process by way of spreading libertarian ideas.
sell out
05-14-2011 , 01:30 AM
"segregation was done by laws"....wow what a tard. Because left to their own devices they wouldn't have had de facto segregation...

      
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