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02-07-2008 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
To Romney's credit (if you're a GOPer), he's pretty explicit why he's dropping out. Transcript from the speech he's going to give at CPAC today:

http://thepage.time.com/transcript-o...from-the-race/

"I disagree with Senator McCain on a number of issues, as you know. But I agree with him on doing whatever it takes to be successful in Iraq, on finding and executing Osama bin Laden, and on eliminating Al Qaeda and terror. If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror.

This is not an easy decision for me. I hate to lose. My family, my friends and our supporters… many of you right here in this room… have given a great deal to get me where I have a shot at becoming President. If this were only about me, I would go on. But I entered this race because I love America, and because I love America, I feel I must now stand aside, for our party and for our country."


So yeah, Romney being the good party man, I guess.


As an aside - that "aiding a surrender to terror" line -- yikes, thems fightin' words; just a euphemistic way of saying "if I don't step aside and stop bickering with McCain, the Democrats will win and surrender to Al Qaeda".

Anyway, like I said, Romney out and spreading the "time to shutup and back the nominee even if we don't like him" memo is good for McCain ldo. Will be interesting to see if the CPAC crowd is on their best behavior and plays nice for McCain. It will get lets of media attention if they're apathetic or outright hostile to JM when it's his turn to give his speech.
I'm sure the fact that he would have had to spend tens of millions more of his own money on a campaign that has virtually no chance of winning had nothing to do with it.
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02-07-2008 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mano
I'm sure the fact that he would have had to spend tens of millions more of his own money on a campaign that has virtually no chance of winning had nothing to do with it.
yeah, he doesn't get the freeroll rp gets.
02-07-2008 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan Beal
"srsly tho, any ideas on McCains vp choices?"

At first it didn't seem like the most likely pairing, but Huckabee actually is looking decent for the role and probably has McCain's trust by now. Nobody else stands out at the moment, and he would help a lot with certain appeal and states that McCain needs. They complement each other well as a ticket. That's probably the republicans best chance in the fall.

Charlie Crist would be my second guess.
So either McCain/Christ or McCain/Crist 2008?
02-07-2008 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
i already said mn gov... jeez. lol
maybe if you knew the name he wouldn't have had to bring it into the thread
02-07-2008 , 03:09 PM
How about former Colorado Gov Bill Owens as a VP choice? He was a Romney supporter (IIRC) early on, though. I think McCain needs to go on the younger side for VP. Nobody over 60 need apply, imo.
02-07-2008 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0
maybe if you knew the name he wouldn't have had to bring it into the thread
hence the obv lol nit.
02-07-2008 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
yeah, he doesn't get the freeroll rp gets.
Ron Paul's supporters are certainly enthusiastic about him, and have showered him with money. It seems most of Romney's supporters weren't really excited about him, they just viewed him as the most palatable of several weak choices, and weren't willing to back him with their checkbooks.
02-07-2008 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
hence the obv lol nit.
not nittery, it was funny that when someone put a name to your suggestion you had to use google to find out who it was. that is all, carry on.
02-07-2008 , 03:13 PM
Perhaps he'll really piss off the conservatives and go for Leiberman.
02-07-2008 , 03:14 PM
i remember 'mn gov', 'psych gsi', 'drunk slutty girl that hooked up with my roommate'

not names... i'm terrible with names.
02-07-2008 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mano
Perhaps he'll really piss off the conservatives and go for Leiberman.
this would be just about the worst thing he could do imo.
02-07-2008 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
'psych gsi'
lol gsi. go blue imo

Anyway, I think Crist makes the most sense for McCain if they've calculated it will put him over the top in FLA. I'd obviously wait to see who my opponent is first before I'd pick a VP nominee.
02-07-2008 , 03:34 PM
Pawlenty's support for McCain didn't help him much here; Romney won the GOP caucus in Minnesota.

Then again, Pawlenty supported McCain when almost nobody else did so that might mean a lot to McCain.
02-07-2008 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Anyway, I think Crist makes the most sense for McCain if they've calculated it will put him over the top in FLA. I'd obviously wait to see who my opponent is first before I'd pick a VP nominee.
He probably doesn't need to gamble as much if it's Hillary. That would likely result in a fairly standard vote split, which would make Crist the best option to help deliver Florida anyway.

Obama could steal a red state or two, though, and that's where Huckabee could be a big help.
02-07-2008 , 03:41 PM
Obama's southern appeal is because the democratic party is a higher % black there. The dems are getting that vote anyway.
02-07-2008 , 03:44 PM
I'm not just talking about southern appeal. Huckabee would help in the midwest too. I'm also mostly referring to red states that Obama may be able to shift blue.
02-07-2008 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
lol gsi. go blue imo
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go bears afaik
02-07-2008 , 04:03 PM
red states are not going to elect hillary or obama no matter what... if he picks huckabee i definitely won't be at the polling place in november (i'm registered republican)

he needs someone that can help him win florida / ohio / pennsylvania etc. and huckabee is not that person
02-07-2008 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by durron597
red states are not going to elect hillary or obama no matter what... if he picks huckabee i definitely won't be at the polling place in november (i'm registered republican)

he needs someone that can help him win florida / ohio / pennsylvania etc. and huckabee is not that person
Huckabee might be in a position to deflect some of the economic populist appeals the Democratic ticket will be making in Ohio, and he might help turn out the evangelical base in the panhandle/Northern Florida. This is where Huckabee makes sense, imo -- while he fails to shore up McCain's conservative bona-fides, he does help energize/activate the evangelical grassroots and economic populists -- the type who like Huckabee's "I'm not your boss, I'm your co-worker" kind of appeal, which should play well in states like Ohio. So I can see why he would make sense as a VP candidate -- I'm not saying he would definitely carry McCain to victory in Florida and Ohio, but I think it's a plausible enough argument that he helps there (and elsewhere).
02-07-2008 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by durron597
red states are not going to elect hillary or obama no matter what...
I'm not so sure about the latter. I'm in a red state with a very popular dem governor who supports him. For the first time I can remember I can realistically see us going that way vs. McCain, who won't be popular in Kansas.
02-07-2008 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by durron597
red states are not going to elect hillary or obama no matter what... if he picks huckabee i definitely won't be at the polling place in november (i'm registered republican)

he needs someone that can help him win florida / ohio / pennsylvania etc. and huckabee is not that person
Florida is much more likely to go Republican than the other 2. Penn is much more likely to go Democrat than the other 2. The best pick IMO is to get someone from Ohio.
02-07-2008 , 04:23 PM
has romney given mccain an endorsement?
02-07-2008 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan Beal
I will be president before the first happens.
I am intrigued by your response, and would like to donate to your campaign.
02-07-2008 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ineedaride2
I am intrigued by your response, and would like to donate to your campaign.
Phase 1 - Run for president
Phase 2 - ?
Phase 3 - profit
02-07-2008 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
Obama's southern appeal is because the democratic party is a higher % black there. The dems are getting that vote anyway.
What part of Hillary's base are the Dems not getting anyway if they choose Obama?
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