That she is a ridiculous person who probably should resign doesn't excuse for a moment the idea that she should be forced by state leadership to resign.

They didn't force her to resign, and they sure as hell aren't forced to fund a public integrity unit headed by a ridiculous person.

bull**** bull**** bull****. Furthermore, I'm not familiar with the intricacies of travis county ADs, but I highly doubt Perry gets to nominate someone.
solid derp right here. Libertarians aren't in favor of massive prosecutorial overreach.

I was just quoting your wording. Glad you acknowledge your wording is ridiculous. But yes, threatening to effectively shut down a unit unless someone resigns is an application of force. Oh not physical force of course, but surely libertarians and figure out what is meant.

Damn Canadians

Perry can select the replacement. Perry committed massive executive overreach.

Real libertarians don't care that a murderous thug like Perry will have to answer to accusations of criminality.

lol answer to those questions, not to the crime of refusing to fund a Public Integrity Unit leader who shouted 'you don't know who I am!' while getting arrested for drunk driving.

She faced the state and served time for her criminal actions.

Unless you think she is an alcoholic there is no chance she will be repeating the crime.

Again real libertarians are totally chill with ex cons not being punished twice and being able to move on with their lives after paying their debt to society.

lololol

She's a public integrity unit leader that attempted to use her position to avoid going to jail. How hard is it for you to understand that this is bad?

Gotta love it when they get hoisted by their own petard.

I don't care, she paid her debt to society and there's no evidence this was more than a one off.

It's much better she stays than the corrupt crony Perry would appoint.

Except that Perry made this exact offer and she refused. But don't let the facts stand in the way of you're liberal ranting.

Basically your whole narrative of what Perry was trying to do is complete crap. His goal was simply to get out of office someone who was clearly unqualified to hold that office (and lol at the idea that the recidivism rate for drunk drivers is 0% so long as you're not an alcoholic).

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...on-5427558.php

Travis County Commissioner Gerald Daughtery, a Republican, said he reached out to Perry's office following the veto to see if there was some way to restore state funding for the anti-corruption Public Integrity Unit. He said that negotiations eventually included allowing Democrats, who dominate Travis County politics, to essentially pick Lehmberg's replacement.

“There was this massive amount of fear that if Rosemary steps down, it's the governor who gets to appoint someone,” Daughtery said. A Lehmberg aide was floated as a potential replacement to make it palatable to Democrats.

Travis County Judge Sam Biscoe confirmed that Perry's office had said that Lehmberg would be replaced with another Democrat who was currently working in the District Attorney's office.

“Then the offer was made, I was told, that the Governor would appoint a Democrat, and preferably one already working in the DA's office,” he said.

Let's just assume she is the devil incarnate. Still doesn't excuse Perry one iota.

btw, I'm from Toronto. Yes, Rob Ford's Toronto. And I took the "no, the province can't force him out ldo" stance there too. This isn't a liberal partisan thing, at least for me.

It obviously does, and what Perry did is clearly not illegal. Care to bet on the result of this indictment?

Um...no. Even David Axelfraud says it's weak. Perry May actually look better after he beats this political b.s.

I have no idea about texas law or what is going to happen. Haven't even read an article that speaks to what the likely results are going to be. So no, I don't want to bet. (OMG capitulation ikes autowins amirite). I can only speak to whether I think public officials should bully others to do what they want by threatening to zero out their office if they don't get their way. Maybe sometimes this principle is codified in law, maybe not. But I still uphold it.

Government using funding to get others to do what they want is pretty standard practice (best example that pops to mind is the federal government cutting off highway funding to force LA to raise drinking age to 21).

I do see how this is different when its to get someone to resign.

Shockingly, you seem only upset about this for Perry instead of the tons of other times this exact mechanism is used and you ignore. Do you want the education department indicted for threatening to withdraw funding for schools that don't handle rape cases?

Again, let's go over exactly what Perry did. He tried to remove funding from a Public Integrity Unit overseen by a woman who not only was convicted of driving drunk, but also attempted to use her position to avoid arrest. That person simply cannot be in charge of a Public Integrity Unit.

He would agree with you if Perry was a Democrat.

Ya already gave a specific example that is somewhat similar where I didn't want the conservative crack head being forced from office by the province. Nice try, though.


Ya repeating that she is a super horrible person doesn't mean it is fine to try and force her out by zeroing the budget. Government personal have a fixed process. Some are elected, appointed etc. One can debate the best process for each person, but whatever it is the established process should be respected and attempts to get around it avoided. Perry doesn't have the ability to fire her, and this round about attempt to get around that fact doesn't help.

Btw, is the "used her position to avoid arrest" that she drunkenly called out "don't you know who I am"? Ya, drunk people are stupid I don't add much to her crimes for this.

Yes you gave that example, but are ignoring the many other situations where you haven't sad a damn thing, and edit out the part of my post. So, when are we filing charges against the department of education? The dept of transportation?

Lol partisans vs partisans

Everyone involved seems awful but this seems pretty weak; its not like we don't already have a surplus of **** to laugh at Rick Perry about.

Now, that said, and I'll freely admit that this isn't really morally defensible and is sort of embracing the type of thing I denounce all the time, namely making politics personal and putting people above policy, etc, but I would absolutely love to see this somehow put Ricky in jail.

After reading every single post in this thread, this quote pretty much sums up what I learned by reading this thread. Unfortunately, this is now the 75th post to add absolutely nothing of real content to the discussion.