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02-16-2017 , 07:18 PM
Automatic voter registration at 18.
02-16-2017 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
Yep. Closing places to get ID where minorities live? That's too complicated. One sentence soundbytes, please.

Minorities are disproportionately poor. Poor people move all the time and don't get their ID changed because there's a much higher marginal cost for them to take the time off work, travel to the ID office, possibly arrange for childcare, the list goes on and on.

You shouldn't have to pay directly to vote. You shouldn't have to pay indirectly to vote, either, with things like forfeiting hours worked.

If we want to get serious about rights in this country, voting rights are where we need to start. Nobody should have to choose what to sacrifice to try to vote. If there was only ONE thing the government paid for, it should be for everyone to be able to vote at no out of pocket cost. No means testing, either, because that's even more expensive to a poor person than trying to get ID in the first place.
Agreed. If we're going to have voter ID (which I support the concept of), we need to make it as easy as possible to get. Send people around like the census. A McMullin town hall I watched had the idea of DMV ID trucks that park at neighborhood centers and do the processing there.
02-16-2017 , 08:04 PM
Anyway, the reason I came to the thread...

DON'T GO TO PROTEST THE TRUMP RALLY IN FLORIDA. IT'S A TRAP.

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https://twitter.com/MelissaJPeltier/...50031255494656
02-16-2017 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by eurodp
Automatic voter registration at 18.
At 16 you mean.
02-16-2017 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
Anyway, the reason I came to the thread...

DON'T GO TO PROTEST THE TRUMP RALLY IN FLORIDA. IT'S A TRAP.
Do you have any evidence that it's a trap other than some rando on Twitter with a hunch?
02-16-2017 , 09:14 PM
Wife went to a protest tonight in support of immigrants/DACA. Saw first-hand how it was entirely peaceful but apparently people marching in the streets is just to much and the cops had to come in to break it up and arrest people. No destruction, no riots, no weapons, just people exercising their rights to peaceful protest.
02-16-2017 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Do you have any evidence that it's a trap other than some rando on Twitter with a hunch?
The hunch is supported by the fact that @RoguePOTUSStaff is promoting the protest. That account pretty much has to be a troll. I guess MAYBE Trump's team could be so incompetent that this would slip by them, but what about Secret Service? I just can't see how that source can be trusted.
02-16-2017 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
Agreed. If we're going to have voter ID (which I support the concept of), we need to make it as easy as possible to get. Send people around like the census. A McMullin town hall I watched had the idea of DMV ID trucks that park at neighborhood centers and do the processing there.
And which neighborhood centers do you suppose those trucks would go to in red states?
02-16-2017 , 09:45 PM
Paranoid much????? Like since when have one of your riots I mean protests been really peaceful? Have you wondered what happens when Republicans start acting like you?
02-16-2017 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Do you have any evidence that it's a trap other than some rando on Twitter with a hunch?
The thought did occur to me as well, but yeah, it's just conspiracy theory speculation at this point. Although it would be kind of cool to see a black bloc making a show with masks off and a clearly stated goal of preventing disruption.
02-16-2017 , 09:47 PM
That Woman's March was sure a riot.

Quit trying to troll.
02-16-2017 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dzikijohnny
Paranoid much????? Like since when have one of your riots I mean protests been really peaceful? Have you wondered what happens when Republicans start acting like you?
I stopped waiting for Republicans to develop empathy years ago
02-16-2017 , 09:50 PM
OH SNAP
02-16-2017 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
And which neighborhood centers do you suppose those trucks would go to in red states?
Grocery store parking lot? School parking lot? If your town's so small that it doesn't have a city park or church or even post office, then park at the lone stop light. Your objection is to the specificity of the location?
02-16-2017 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
Grocery store parking lot? School parking lot? If your town's so small that it doesn't have a city park or church or even post office, then park at the lone stop light. Your objection is to the specificity of the location?
Come on, man, think a little deeper. You're driving the voter registration bus around Mobile, AL. Your boss is a Republican. So is your boss' boss, and that guy's boss too. It's GOP all the way up. Which neighborhoods are you going to be visiting, and more importantly, which ones will you not be visiting?
02-16-2017 , 10:46 PM
Well of course the idea isn't going to work NOW. It presumes a good faith effort to get people registered which OBVIOUSLY isn't the current case.
02-16-2017 , 11:03 PM
Our president, Donald J. Trump, would like you to complete this survey:

https://gop.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/
02-16-2017 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Original Position
At 16 you mean.
Are you suggesting the franchise should be extended to 16 & 17 yos?
02-16-2017 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
Are you suggesting the franchise should be extended to 16 & 17 yos?
At least.
02-17-2017 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Speaking of thread hijacks, this is about protest, but not about Trump protests. Tonight I watched When Two Worlds Collide on Netflix. It's about a conflict in Peru between indigenous people, the government, and multinational corporations.

Well worth watching imo.
Winter On Fire, too. It's about the Ukrainian revolution in 2014. Gripping.
02-17-2017 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Original Position
At least.
Wow. According to today's Wikipedia page, the youngest voting age now is 16 in some places.

Why? I guess, besides you feeling voting in these kinda farces is good for the soul. Do you think it would help the donkeys?

FYI: if you are a wage earner you can be an IWW, with full voice & vote, regardless of age. Back in the day, when child labor was much more common, we had plenty of children, including those younger than 16, voting in our elections. The MSM of the day, which had no problem with 8yos down the coal mines, called this policy child exploitation.
02-17-2017 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
The hunch is supported by the fact that @RoguePOTUSStaff is promoting the protest. That account pretty much has to be a troll. I guess MAYBE Trump's team could be so incompetent that this would slip by them, but what about Secret Service? I just can't see how that source can be trusted.
Uh, man, the left seriously needs to invest in a crash course of Rule #1: don't trust people who write like they are currently high, followed by Rule #2: Just because someone is opposed to something bad doesn't make them good.

Like, yeah, we all know RoguePOTUS is a fake account, but a #Bannon #disinfo #falseflag playing the #longgame by setting up weeks ahead of this rally that was announced a few days ago? No.

It's just some moron doing it for attention before he sells his follower count to **** Jerry or whatever.

I know this is extremely ableist and judgmental of people who self-medicate with handfuls of ADD drugs and half a bottle of wine every night, but seriously, no. Don't trust RoguePOTUS, but also don't listen to anyone who writes like Eric ****ing Garland. One's level of skepticism should be informed by the author of what you're reading, and that lady has no idea what the **** she's talking about. She namechecks Louise ****ing Mensch in a positive manner(also incorrectly, people figured out that RoguePOTUS was fake immediately, but hey nothing says "I'm a ****ing worthless centrist ****lib" than giving positive press to a goddamn right wing anti-feminist)!
02-17-2017 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
Wow. According to today's Wikipedia page, the youngest voting age now is 16 in some places.

Why? I guess, besides you feeling voting in these kinda farces is good for the soul. Do you think it would help the donkeys?

FYI: if you are a wage earner you can be an IWW, with full voice & vote, regardless of age. Back in the day, when child labor was much more common, we had plenty of children, including those younger than 16, voting in our elections. The MSM of the day, which had no problem with 8yos down the coal mines, called this policy child exploitation.
Ha, I'm quite radical on this point actually. I'm willing to extend the franchise to any citizen who can sign their name. But 16 seems like a good starting place for now.

I do think, at least in the short term, it would help the Democrats. But that isn't really the reason for me. I think politicians are somewhat responsive to the interests perceived interests of their voters. Children and teenagers have more long-term interests than old people (one of the reasons they care so much more about climate change), so if they voted politicians would care a little more about these long-term type of issues.

Last edited by Original Position; 02-17-2017 at 12:54 AM. Reason: accuracy
02-17-2017 , 12:46 AM
I can't believe you're restricting it to literate people. That's too easily exploitable
02-17-2017 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by PocketChads
I can't believe you're restricting it to literate people. That's too easily exploitable
I don't actually, but people get weirded out when I talk about proxy parent voting.

EDIT: Ah, I see, no I wasn't trying to restrict it from illiterate adults, I meant the age at which someone can become literate, like 5 or 6.

Last edited by Original Position; 02-17-2017 at 12:59 AM. Reason: Clarification

      
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