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Republicans (and moderates) Going Nuts Over Benghazi ... Republicans (and moderates) Going Nuts Over Benghazi ...

05-08-2014 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
The fact that republicans may attack the administration for their failures doesn't make it OK to make a fabricated story of why an US ambassador died. By the logic you present here, it would be ok for the executive to never release anything negative about it's performance ever.

That seems awfully partisan and horrible in the long term. I doubt such a belief would last to a republican president however.... At least, on this board.
So who fabricated a story exactly?
05-08-2014 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
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Really don't think ikes is going to tell a complete story on this one. "Lies were told, shame shame shame Obama! If you liberals don't get it by now you never will."
05-08-2014 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Speaking of lying, is ikes wrong or lying? Or is it sematikes this time?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert...ushpmg00000013
You're trying to play semantics here, while accusing me of playing semantics. Excellent.
05-08-2014 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Really don't think ikes is going to tell a complete story on this one. "Lies were told, shame shame shame Obama! If you liberals don't get it by now you never will."
We don't know the complete story, and we never will. We know the CIA report goofy is referring to did blame the protests (after having the reference to a possible attack taken out). We also know that many in the administration suspected that wasn't true immediately. We also know the administration knew that it wasn't true within a few days of the event, but took much longer to change their tune.
05-08-2014 , 06:57 PM
So what this comes down to is...

Spoiler:
05-08-2014 , 07:01 PM
The administration lied repeatedly about what happened in benghazi goofy. What I actually said was that we will never know the full story, which is completely standard in this situation.
05-08-2014 , 07:03 PM
Yes ikes, republicans have told repeated lies about benghazi, just this week they are lying about knowing what has actually already been recorded and reported. Hopefully they used the same "preliminary" qualifier as Susan Rice.
05-08-2014 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
ikes- Who lied, and when? About what?
05-08-2014 , 07:07 PM
Assuming there was initial coverup/misdirection that has already been exposed, what else are these constant hearings and investigations supposed to reveal? And exactly why are the Republicans so damn interested in it? Like are you personally invested in the people who died at this point and demand closure? A lot of historical events aren't fully understood and doubt still lingers on the official explanation (JFK, Pearl Harbor) yet people aren't dumping resources into finding out exactly what happened there. As schu asked, WHAT IS THE END GAME, what is the desired end result other than political harm coming to Obama and especially Hilary and how is that going to happen beyond what we already know? Their only goal at this point seems to find excuses to keep it in the public consciousness, as was stated earlier.
05-08-2014 , 07:12 PM
ikes is "fabricated" really the word you want to use here?
05-08-2014 , 07:20 PM
Benghazi is just a huge troll from the GOP leadership (Rush, Ted Cruz) and the sheep that watch Fox and religiously follow any storyline without understanding what's going on (ie Ikes). They're basically still mad lolRomney got wrecked and this is the last memory of they are clinging to in their misguided delusions/hope
05-08-2014 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Assuming there was initial coverup/misdirection that has already been exposed, what else are these constant hearings and investigations supposed to reveal? And exactly why are the Republicans so damn interested in it? Like are you personally invested in the people who died at this point and demand closure? A lot of historical events aren't fully understood and doubt still lingers on the official explanation (JFK, Pearl Harbor) yet people aren't dumping resources into finding out exactly what happened there. As schu asked, WHAT IS THE END GAME, what is the desired end result other than political harm coming to Obama and especially Hilary and how is that going to happen beyond what we already know? Their only goal at this point seems to find excuses to keep it in the public consciousness, as was stated earlier.
I have a hard time believing you really need an answer to why Republicans are so damn interested in it, but just to humor you.... Democrats lying and looking bad is good for Republicans. Exposing Obama and Clinton lying about an event like this would undercut both the current administration and the most likely democratic nominee.

This isn't exactly rocket science.
05-08-2014 , 07:26 PM
climate change denier, george zimmerman fan club chairman, benghazi Benghazi BENGHAZI true believer. ikesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

also republicans dont seem too upset about republican governors letting people INNOCENT AMERICANS DIE because wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh nobamacare for poors
05-08-2014 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
climate change denier, george zimmerman fan club chairman, benghazi Benghazi BENGHAZI true believer. ikesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

also republicans dont seem too upset about republican governors letting people INNOCENT AMERICANS DIE because wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh nobamacare for poors
Yell, yell, whine, equivocate...... still looking, hang on a second.

Nope, nothing actually talking about the subject at hand. Thanks riverman.
05-08-2014 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
I have a hard time believing you really need an answer to why Republicans are so damn interested in it, but just to humor you.... Democrats lying and looking bad is good for Republicans. Exposing Obama and Clinton lying about an event like this would undercut both the current administration and the most likely democratic nominee.

This isn't exactly rocket science.
Right, so don't give us this bull**** that anyone actually cares what happened outside of how it can help the Republicans politically. They don't want "the whole story", they want to nitpick the administration's words and actions to find any little point of contention that they can point at and scream "Liars!" The administration has basically been caught lying/covering up but it's just not all that scandalous outside of that. If there was something substantial they were looking for I could understand but at this point they are wasting everyone's time and taxpayer money to form completely partisan search committees.
05-08-2014 , 07:40 PM
Do you guys think the word Benghazi is part of all this hype for the GOP? Like SLAYER might not been as popular of a band if they were called TENDER FURY. If it happened over in Ajdabiya it would not have gained as much traction cuz that name does not work as a buzzword?

As many have pointed out the actual thing has no meaning anymore. It's all just Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi at this point.

Last edited by fatkid; 05-08-2014 at 07:46 PM.
05-08-2014 , 07:41 PM
Ikes,

Romney lost. Howbout you just drop this Benghazi spectacle and buy yourself some Baby Johnson shampoo, you know, the one with the "no more tears" formula?
05-08-2014 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Meditations
Ikes,

Romney lost. Howbout you just drop this Benghazi spectacle and buy yourself some Baby Johnson shampoo, you know, the one with the "no more tears" formula?
I didn't vote for or campaign for romney whatever formerly banned poster you are.
05-08-2014 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Right, so don't give us this bull**** that anyone actually cares what happened outside of how it can help the Republicans politically. They don't want "the whole story", they want to nitpick the administration's words and actions to find any little point of contention that they can point at and scream "Liars!" The administration has basically been caught lying/covering up but it's just not all that scandalous outside of that. If there was something substantial they were looking for I could understand but at this point they are wasting everyone's time and taxpayer money to form completely partisan search committees.
A scandal being mostly about someone lying is par for the course in American politics. Ask clinton what he really got in trouble for. Ask nixon how the phrase 'it's not the crime, it's the cover up' came to be. These are things that are fairly standard in american politics, and I'm guessing it's not just us displaying this kind of behavior.
05-08-2014 , 07:51 PM
ikes, do you think there's perhaps anything we can read into here about the fact that while the cover up seemed to take place at the CIA, it's Obama and Hillary's heads they want on a stick?
05-08-2014 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
I have a hard time believing you really need an answer to why Republicans are so damn interested in it, but just to humor you.... Democrats lying and looking bad is good for Republicans. Exposing Obama and Clinton lying about an event like this would undercut both the current administration and the most likely democratic nominee.

This isn't exactly rocket science.
Wait but I thought we already knew they lied("repeatedly", and "fabricated" even).

What additional lies might we expect to see come to light as a result of this committee?
05-08-2014 , 07:57 PM
Seriously ikes it kinda seems like your defense to the pc librul elitist accusation that #Benghazi is a transparently political ploy to redirect the residual anger bear rustling over Muslims killing Americans against Clinton 2016, with a short term plan of using it to fundraise for the NRCC and **** is to say...
"But it's a GOOD transparently political ploy"
05-08-2014 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
ikes, do you think there's perhaps anything we can read into here about the fact that while the cover up seemed to take place at the CIA, it's Obama and Hillary's heads they want on a stick?
Hmmm.... that they want the high value targets? Again, I have a hard time believing you don't see this.
05-08-2014 , 08:02 PM
wait is ikes really a climate change denier? haven't really ventured into that thread
05-08-2014 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Wait but I thought we already knew they lied("repeatedly", and "fabricated" even).

What additional lies might we expect to see come to light as a result of this committee?
Oh fly. Read again.

      
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