I was talking with a Ron Paul supporter in my economics class and he was talking to me about how Ron Paul supporters are basically stealing delegates here and there and using the state and county conventions to elect delegates loyal to Ron Paul. I looked up RP website and found some of these news stories.

http://wrightrepublican.blogspot.com...ul-factor.html

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/break...y.asp?ID=14513

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,3595380.story

I haven't even heard one story like this on the news and I was quite surprised that to some extent this strategy is working.

I'm surprised that all of the Paul bots on this forum haven't mentioned this before.

I don't know if I like the fact that that this can actually work and the will of so many voters just be completely superseded, but it is in the rules.

Supposedly my friend said that unless McCain gets 51% of the delegates on the first round of voting at the national convention then the next round will unbound delegates who have to vote for a certain candidate and so and so on. Now preventing 51% seems like a tall order but you know how fanatical these Paulbots are.

On a sidenote Ron Paul just co sponsored a bill repealing the UIGEA Act today.
http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007170.cfm

I knew about this for some time as i was told by my good friend who works for the campaign, but i assumed it was a secret or at least should be bc their goal was to get a high percentage as delegates and if people knew they could counteract

It's true. Although most of the delegates have a more reasoned approach. IE, we want to change the platform of the party (you wouldn't believe the crap that's on there now).

It's interesting because the GOP party is doing a lot to keep these people out, but in many areas, we just simply outnumber them. My county convention is tommorrow, and I will be writing a TR about it.

My feeling is that the GOP nomination is, sadly, out of reach for Ron Paul. But I think that a lot of his platform for this race was simply raising awareness about issues and encouraging "Ron Paul Republicans" to run for local offices as well. I am very lucky and am working closely with a "RPR" for congress this election cycle, and there are more and more all the time who decide to run.

If we have enough time or energy to make a difference remains to be seen.

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So the RPbots think its perfectly ethically acceptable and proper to try to back-door a candidate into the nomination who has averaged between five and ten (mostly closer to five) percent of the vote in nearly all of the primaries he's been on the ballot for? Really? That part of your libertarian values? also, lollerskates at this having a snowball's chance in hell at actually working.

If a Dem were doing this we'd have to hear all about how we live in the modern equivalent of Soviet Russia.

McCain already has over 51% for the first ballot. He will certainly pad that with the remaining primaries where he will get 70+ %. So what is Paul trying to accomplish here if its not mathematically possible for him to win?

It's true. Although most of the delegates have a more reasoned approach. IE, we want to change the platform of the party (you wouldn't believe the crap that's on there now).

It's interesting because the GOP party is doing a lot to keep these people out, but in many areas, we just simply outnumber them. My county convention is tommorrow, and I will be writing a TR about it.

My feeling is that the GOP nomination is, sadly, out of reach for Ron Paul. But I think that a lot of his platform for this race was simply raising awareness about issues and encouraging "Ron Paul Republicans" to run for local offices as well. I am very lucky and am working closely with a "RPR" for congress this election cycle, and there are more and more all the time who decide to run.

If we have enough time or energy to make a difference remains to be seen.

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Its not Paul, its a limited few of his number of his ******ed supporters. It just happens that his most ******ed supporters are more ******ed (and motivated) than other candidates.

I still want to see Ron Paul's speech at the republican convention. (he gets one, right?)

Excellent news for the people in your economics class:

You and the other RP supporter haven't being paying attention and will really help the curve.

I doubt they will let him on there if they have any choice in the matter.

Of course it's acceptable. The rules are the rules. If the Republican party wants to change the rules so this sort of thing could not happen, they should.

They should make a deal with him to give him a nice time and slot for his speech if he officially drops out and tells his supporters to stop this BS.

They should have to give him time to make a speech but they would probably give him the worst time slot.

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Why should they make a deal? It's not like there is a chance in hell of this working.

Just to unify the party. To give the 10% Ron Paul supporters a voice in the party that they deserve.

They are not 10% of the party, giving him a speech will not unite the party, they will not be voting for mccain.

Yea, let's give him the VP slot too, and let's get out of the UN and let's all agree that people don't really *need* roads. The RP surge is bigger than ever, give him whatever he wants, it can't be stopped!

I disagree, the libertarian wing of the party is a lot bigger then we thought and Ron Paul's candidacy reflected that. For the first time someone reflected true libertarian principles in the Republican party and the libertarians who have voted Republican only because it is the party closest to their ideals finally had a candidate who truly reflected their ideals.

They didn't like Ron Paul because he was against the war but because of his political ideology. They will vote Republican or not at all. And if you ignore them and Ron Paul then they will not vote.

Wow when did I ever imply that! Just saying you should cater to the libertarian wing. They are bigger then the Republicans thought and a lot of their ideals are the same as Conservative/Republican ones.

I am not for Ron Paul or for most of what he stands for, just saying the Republican party shouldn't ignore him.

I think there must be a law of "conservation of horrible posting" in this forum. Whenever one bad poster stops making bad posts, whether it be because he got better, or got banned, or just left, another guy selflessly steps right up and keeps the crappy post level constant.

He could tell all of his supporters to stop and it wouldn't stop these nutjobs. Most of these people are extremely naive, inexperienced, and dedicated a lot of time, effort, and money to his cause. They are like the Japanese fighters fighting on 10 years after WWII ended. They are fanatics. They are far from the majority of RP supporters, but having him tell them to stop would do nothing. They would think its just even more part of the secret plan for him to play nice then win even more delegates. Just think Nielsio, then think even crazier.