why hold back? go all the way.

That was all the way. Do you know what a minstrel act is?

I'm not sure how you would find irrefutable mathematical data that can prove what someone's unexpressed or assuaged opinions are. You're asking people to prove that Mr. X is racist. This is not a provable concept; it's a matter of opinion.

The only ways to measure this are the answers that have already been given - that (R) are more likely to be against gay marriage, against affirmative action, support stop 'n' frisk, and generally side with things that go against the interests of minorities and homosexuals.

Uncle Tom is "more of the way" than Minstrel.

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I must admit I looked a bit silly at work the other week when I didn't know this. I thought it was just a puppet show.

But you know what an Uncle Tom is.

I think that most people have an intuitive understanding that political philosophy approximates a continuum that is determined by an underlying explaining variable (or a few). So at the extreme end of the continuum towards conservatism there is fascism. We know what type of racism accompanies fascism, just look at the holocaust. Keep in mind when considering that example, that even the Nazis in their extreme racsim had a, in their minds, non-racist justification for their treatment of the Jews in eugenics. So if that's true then the fact that republicans have non-racist sounding justifications for their positions should not be taken at face value. On the other end of the spectrum towards liberalism (not to be confused with neo-liberalism here) you have communism or other ideals of egalitarian states. So naturally, with this obvious model in mind, we would guess that repubs are more racist than democrats who are closer to the ideal of everyone being completely equal.

But if you need empirical proof, here it is in a poll (why has nobody so far bothered to bring up a poll??):

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...erica/1662067/

The poll finds that racial prejudice is not limited to one group of partisans. Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79% among Republicans compared with 32% among Democrats), the implicit test found little difference between the two parties. That test showed a majority of both Democrats and Republicans held anti-black feelings (55% of Democrats and 64% of Republicans), as did about half of political independents (49%).

So it looks like, in reality, republicans are more honest about their true feelings and are a little more racist than democrats. Of course this is only one study but it does sound about right in my experience.

I would have thought independents would have scored as more racist than the democrats though.

I mean, yes, obviously, right? Otherwise, the fact that a huge majority of Dems support the War on Drugs would basically make any distinction between the two groups relative bigotry moot.

Thats an interesting study you bring up. In fact, the "white" names they used were sort of generic middle or upper class "white" names. The "black" names were names associated more with poorer black families. They did a similar study where they used "white trash" sounding white people names vs. generic names, and they found a very similar effect.

Except rankings are not that firm, they are educated guesses. If we're hiring a political scientist, we may well conclude that the top four could all do it and can't really predict which one we'll still like the most after working together five years. One candidate presents better, but anothers specialty is a better fit. One individual is awesome, but won't stay at our little school a week longer than he has to. One has a great publication record but something's off. Throwing race into the mix does not have to lower standards a bit, it is just one more thing to value.

Competence at what? If I have a student population that's 50% African American, and faculty is 5%, who is going to do a more competent job of modeling success to those students? In a case like this, which is not rare, the school really needs to achieve a long term shift in hiring. Not a strict ratio, but getting real.

They're not going to Bemidji Minnesota without a scholarship.

Everybody knows the Republican Party is littered with racists but it never will be a proven fact because they will always deny it.

I live in Seattle which appears to have liberal feelings towards African Americans but deep down Seattle's liberals are secret racists as well. That cool Queen Anne mom who listens to TV On The Radio and shops at whole foods would be the first to call the cops if she EVER saw a black guy walking in her neighborhood at night.

Ah I see now and agree that in cases of equally qualified candidates selecting based on race would not lower standards.

Competence at whatever the job/area of study happens to be. In the case of teachers, the best teacher in that subject. Why couldn't a white professor model success to an African American student, or an African American professor model success to a white student? My favorite professor and the one who most positively impacted my academic career shared neither my race nor gender. 90% of my teachers were female and they modeled success to me just fine.

why not? It is 18.7% non white.

Quick ancedote. I live in a city of about 200k. There has been a big stink raised about this locally. Out of about 100 applicants for a promotion to a major position in the police department they picked someone who scored 74th on the exam so they could give the job to a black female. The top 16 were white males, after that they still skipped over black males and white females. Ironic that both females and blacks were passed over for AA.

Hey so HuffPo took my advice about asking actual racists about the Tea Party and it's pretty amazing:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...?utm_hp_ref=tw

Like Neo-Nazis think Tea Partiers "get it" about the lazy and criminal blacks but they are confused by the Tea Party's support of Israel:

LOL the part where Stormfront liked Alan Grayson for attacking the Fed because they think the Fed is run by Jews, but then decided they don't like Grayson when they figured out he was Jewish.

Fly kinda staring too deeply into the abyss here... come back to the light, bro.

They got a twofer. A skilled Black woman has a real edge in the job market. And in case anybody thinks that they only get jobs bec of AA I'll say this: The NYC govt would crash and burn if the Black women walked off the job, they are that important.

I've got my own anecdote: I once visited the Bronx office of the water dept w/ a serious (to my mind) technical problem. Since it was the water dept I expected a staff of grizzled old plumbers but, no, behind the counter were perhaps 40 mostly Black women. One approached, she started fixing my problem, and then the door to the office opened and what must have been a relic came out and approached. An old white man relic who asked what was up. I was quick to shoo him off bec he could only screw things up.

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Ladies and Gentlemen: I present the Thomas Sowell one man Minstrel Show:

Are we supposed to be surprised that he's black? I don't understand your inclusion of the portrait.

When I make a post I like it to be as high content as possible so I included a photo, by accident the same one that's on his page it turns out.

Frankly I don't know how to take your point. I'm assuming that you think I'm giving 'extra credit' to Mr. Sowell for being Black or something, IDK really. At any rate he's not half-minstrel show in the least, you have to go a long way to find someone brighter/more insightful than him.

Archie Bunker was a conservative racist. A lot of conservatives seem to identify with Archie Bunker.

Are you serious? Archie Bunker is a caricature that everybody laughed at. Your second sentence would better convey what I take to be your point if it were 'A lot of conservatives are Archie Bunker types' rather than saying that they identify w/ an intentionally obvious buffoon. I'd say that you're wrong, fwiw.

Republicans push for voter id laws is obviously not about preventing voter fraud, it is about disenfranchising minority voters.