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09-20-2014 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Come on fly your posts are starting to read like cut and paste templates of random profanity and insults. Getting repetitive, you can do better than this. Also, I have no clue what you're talking about.
Yeah, we know. That's my point. You have no idea what the law does, but you assume that because Republicans voted against it it's bad for workers and business. Workers AND business!

Because of "the wording".

GTFO
09-20-2014 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Russell
I'm guessing you mean yours. I ain't complain'...as long as she gets equal pay.

Then again, I'm not paying a guy to dress like that and do the hula all that much. So, yeah, equal pay here would be a very good deal, and should probably be legislated.
I meant the house of steel
09-21-2014 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Yeah, we know. That's my point. You have no idea what the law does, but you assume that because Republicans voted against it it's bad for workers and business. Workers AND business!

Because of "the wording".

GTFO
Yeah the wording. As in, the words contained in the act. You can easily Google it yourself if you want to see what changes it would make to existing law. It's not hard. You can also Google multiple responses to the legislation, that outline why republicans think it would be bad for both business AND workers.

Also I never stated that I assumed Republicans were right - I said I assumed that's why they voted against it. Rather than the alternative reason, which is that they are political morons who would go out of their way to alienate the majority voter group in the country for no reason.
09-21-2014 , 06:18 AM
Its amazing that Republicans still eat up the "its a burden on business" bull****. Of course paying women more so they earn as much as men is a "burden". It is a "burden" they should be voluntarily taking on right now!
09-21-2014 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Its amazing that Republicans still eat up the "its a burden on business" bull****. Of course paying women more so they earn as much as men is a "burden". It is a "burden" they should be voluntarily taking on right now!
The lawsuits that are the mechanism for equaling pay are burdensome. It may be a worthwhile and just burden but a burden just the same.
09-21-2014 , 10:24 AM
But they are only burdensome if you are paying women less for the same work. Its like saying laws against white collar crime like fraud are burdensome on businesses.
09-21-2014 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
But they are only burdensome if you are paying women less for the same work. Its like saying laws against white collar crime like fraud are burdensome on businesses.
Equal pay is already the law like fraud statutes.
09-21-2014 , 10:43 AM
But those laws are clearly toothless and not working. As demonstrated by how women make significantly less than men for the same work.
09-21-2014 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
But they are only burdensome if you are paying women less for the same work.
Not necessarily true.
09-21-2014 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
Its amazing that Republicans still eat up the "its a burden on business" bull****. Of course paying women more so they earn as much as men is a "burden". It is a "burden" they should be voluntarily taking on right now!
With no laws helping women, 20 years from now, the median pay for women 18-39 will be higher than the median pay for men. More women go to and graduate from college than men.
09-21-2014 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by neg3sd
With no laws helping women, 20 years from now, the median pay for women 18-39 will be higher than the median pay for men. More women go to and graduate from college than men.
And I bet they would still be paid less in like for like work.
09-21-2014 , 12:18 PM
Warren tries to find wedge issues when there really are not any. Women get pregnant. Student loans are already way below market value and the interest is even deductible to Obamacare. All equal pay laws end up in higher unemployment. The reality is she cares about no one she is just trying to pick up votes. Yes, minimum wage laws may seem good, but when a worker in China makes $1 per hour how is it going to lead to manufacture in the United States. So you say you want increase tariffs, is the public willing to pay $10,000 for a HDTV. She and Reich work in government they are looking for people to do work for them, so they don't have to. Reich said when he was young he went around the playground and found 2 guys that would serve to protect him.

I offer a system for free land to build a house, both permit and property tax free. A means to cut your utility bills in 1/3. Warren offers misery unless you happen to be one of the lucky few to get a government job.

Imagine an army of women architects getting paid 1/2 of what a man makes. How can a man get a job in this firm wanting twice the pay?

Last edited by steelhouse; 09-21-2014 at 12:23 PM.
09-21-2014 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Yeah the wording. As in, the words contained in the act. You can easily Google it yourself if you want to see what changes it would make to existing law. It's not hard. You can also Google multiple responses to the legislation, that outline why republicans think it would be bad for both business AND workers.
Dude, I understand what you're saying, I'm mocking it for being hilarious.

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Also I never stated that I assumed Republicans were right - I said I assumed that's why they voted against it. Rather than the alternative reason, which is that they are political morons who would go out of their way to alienate the majority voter group in the country for no reason.
What? That wasn't the alternative reason. Jesus Christ.

Maybe try this. Democrats voted for it, right? Can't we therefore assume that they did so because they DON'T think the current law is enough, so they need this new good legislation?
09-21-2014 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
The lawsuits that are the mechanism for equaling pay are burdensome. It may be a worthwhile and just burden but a burden just the same.
seattle supplicating extra hard to his corporate masters this week. Gonna get an extra ration of gruel for your service, sah?
09-21-2014 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Maybe try this. Democrats voted for it, right? Can't we therefore assume that they did so because they DON'T think the current law is enough, so they need this new good legislation?
Perhaps, although they are not dumb and might also realize that, whether the legislation is actually needed or not, or whether it passes or not... it's a can't-lose for them politically.

I'm sure most dems honestly believe the law would be beneficial, but I'm also sure many weren't all that sad to see republicans vote it down - since their no votes provide such effective political ammo.
09-21-2014 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
seattle supplicating extra hard to his corporate masters this week. Gonna get an extra ration of gruel for your service, sah?
Lawyers love lawsuits. Who knew?
09-21-2014 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
But those laws are clearly toothless and not working. As demonstrated by how women make significantly less than men for the same work.
There is discrimination against short people. In general in the US men are 5 inches taller than US women. Robert Riech is like 4'11". Short men get paid less than taller men. It is not PC to mention this. Look at sports. Rarely do you see a 5'6" or shorter man in the NFL, NBA or MLB. At 5'11 1/2" Johnny 'football' is considered too short.
09-21-2014 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by neg3sd
There is discrimination against short people. In general in the US men are 5 inches taller than US women. Robert Riech is like 4'11". Short men get paid less than taller men. It is not PC to mention this. Look at sports. Rarely do you see a 5'6" or shorter man in the NFL, NBA or MLB. At 5'11 1/2" Johnny 'football' is considered too short.
i, uh...
09-21-2014 , 09:56 PM
NBA discriminates against short people!

negs!
09-22-2014 , 12:19 AM
US voters discriminate against short men. James Madison was the only short president.
09-22-2014 , 12:23 AM
Phill worries about the US discriminating against women in pay. Yet he is not certain with Pakistanis raping young women. The left is very inconsistent.
09-22-2014 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by neg3sd
Phill worries about the US discriminating against women in pay. Yet he is not certain with Pakistanis raping young women. The left is very inconsistent.
now you're just getting sloppy
09-22-2014 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by neg3sd
There is discrimination against short people. In general in the US men are 5 inches taller than US women. Robert Riech is like 4'11". Short men get paid less than taller men. It is not PC to mention this. Look at sports. Rarely do you see a 5'6" or shorter man in the NFL, NBA or MLB. At 5'11 1/2" Johnny 'football' is considered too short.
Lol. You don't know what politically correct means.
09-24-2014 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by neg3sd
Phill worries about the US discriminating against women in pay. Yet he is not certain with Pakistanis raping young women. The left is very inconsistent.
How do Brits handle pay discrimination for women?

Is it an issue? Do you have laws to correct it?
09-24-2014 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim Russell
How do Brits handle pay discrimination for women?

Is it an issue? Do you have laws to correct it?
We have stronger laws but a gap still exists, smaller than in America though.

There are new laws working their way through the system making pay secrecy clauses unenforceable to help address this, as it's already quite easy to sue via employment tribunals.

We have had laws against it in the Villa for 40 years but many who are discriminated against don't realise which is a major issue obv.

      
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