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GDP argument is idiotic.

The universities one is good. Probably won't last forever. For years, the US has been attracting the best students, doctors and faculty from all over the world. For some reason I think that may have been decreasing over the last couple of years.

Agree on both. This year two UK universities top the list.

p.s. for Flynn, no Canadian university makes the top 10.

12-18-2018 , 11:57 PM

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UT #11?

12-18-2018 , 11:59 PM

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Yeah, no-one cares what Canada leads and if you think anyone's buying that that was your point I have some sad news.

The patriotism nerve is strong in this one. I notice you countered none of my points. You simply insulted my nationality without citing any counter data. Sound familiar? Trump would be very proud.

You are insulated because I posted stats. Think about that for a moment in the context of the three year history of this thread.

12-19-2018 , 12:03 AM

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Jane Austen was English bro.

These people literally got paid by the page most of the time, so they filled it out with a bunch of random descriptions.

Counterpoint: Many 19th century authors wrote timeless masterpieces that are still being read and enjoyed 200 years later. Their books are still being made into (successful) movies hundreds of years later, either as direct adaptations, or as source material for popular adaptations.

Do we really think anyone is going to be reading Stephen King or Dan Brown in 2219? Maybe Rowling...

12-19-2018 , 12:06 AM

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An bhfuil tú dáiríre? Is é seo, go hionraic, náire.

12-19-2018 , 12:08 AM

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Counterpoint: Many 19th century authors wrote timeless masterpieces that are still being read and enjoyed 200 years later. Their books are still being made into (successful) movies hundreds of years later, either as direct adaptations, or as source material for tons of popular blockbusters.

Do we really think anyone is going to be reading Stephen King or Dan Brown in 2219? Maybe Rowling...

Rowling is who you come up with! There are tons of modern authors ahead of her for potential longevity.

Franzen
Atwood
Morrison
Rushdie

12-19-2018 , 12:12 AM

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Russian lit is shockingly awesome

Tolstoy GOAT

12-19-2018 , 12:12 AM

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An bhfuil tú dáiríre? Is é seo, go hionraic, náire.

Expat or psychopath.

12-19-2018 , 12:14 AM

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Expat or psychopath.

lol

12-19-2018 , 12:14 AM

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Russian lit is shockingly awesome

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This x100000. Pretty much the entire top ten of greatest novels are Russian 19th or early 20th century imo.

12-19-2018 , 12:14 AM

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Canada doesn’t lead any of these stats either. The difference is I can admit it without some major blow to my psyche and Canadians don’t claim we are the number one nation in the world at a rate approaching the US which was my point responding to Trump’s tweet.

As a Canadian living in the US, Canadians are pretty over the top in making sure to identify and take pride in anything Canadian. The maple leaf is ****ing everywhere, in logos, flags on buildings, seemingly never out of sight of one when in a city, and it’s prominent in all forms of advertising etc. TV stations, radio ads, it’s always mentioned. Without making a judgment on it, Canadians seem to be much more obsessed with national identity than Americans in day to day life IME. As a Canadian, btw. Did I mention that?

12-19-2018 , 12:15 AM

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Artistically is way above trumps vocabulary. Writers gotta do better.

12-19-2018 , 12:16 AM

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As a Canadian living in the US, Canadians are pretty over the top in making sure to identify and take pride in anything Canadian. The maple leaf is ****ing everywhere, in logos, flags on buildings, seemingly never out of sight of one, and prominent in all forms of advertising etc. Without making a judgment on it, Canadians seem to be much more obsessed with national identity than Americans in day to day life IME. As a Canadian, btw. Did I mention that?

Dude. You wouldn't happen to be... Canadian or anything, would you?

12-19-2018 , 12:17 AM

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People will absolutely be reading Steven King novels in 2219, and we're decades past the point where that has been obvious.

12-19-2018 , 12:18 AM

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As a Canadian living in the US, Canadians are pretty over the top in making sure to identify and take pride in anything Canadian. The maple leaf is ****ing everywhere, in logos, flags on buildings, seemingly never out of sight of one, and prominent in all forms of advertising etc. Without making a judgment on it, Canadians seem to be much more obsessed with national identity than Americans in day to day life IME. As a Canadian, btw. Did I mention that?

That’s a weird perception. I can’t remember the last time is saw a Canadian flag outside of legislature buildings or Canada day.

Not saying we aren’t patriotic though. Of course we are. We just don’t claim to be the greatest nation on earth every second sentence.

12-19-2018 , 12:18 AM

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This is true but the pacing of storytelling is drastically faster today than 200 years ago, hell The Rockford Files are hard to watch because it just kind of wanders from scene to scene.

12-19-2018 , 12:20 AM

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People will absolutely be reading Steven King novels in 2219, and we're decades past the point where that has been obvious.

This. People still read Sherlock Holmes, and that **** was pulpy LCD garbage back in its day.

12-19-2018 , 12:25 AM

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Comparing Stephen King (the biggest selling author of all time, with dozens of movies made off his stories from various genres, including Green Mile, Shawshank, Stand By Me, and The Shining) to Dan Brown, (a one trick pony that hasn't been relevant in pop culture in a decade, is weird.

Like saying "in 50 years no one is going to be listening to any Michael Jackson or Right Said Fred songs."

12-19-2018 , 12:25 AM

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Russian lit is shockingly awesome

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Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky are awesome. I also liked Fathers and Sons - Turgenev. There are great 19th century non-Ruskies too of course.

12-19-2018 , 12:27 AM

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Think about that for a moment in the context of the three year history of this thread.

Canada not leading in math I see. Kidding

. We wish we were 3 years into this thread atm. Closer to the end of it.

12-19-2018 , 12:30 AM

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Dude, don’t know where you live, but it is nearly impossible to be anywhere in any commercial area in Vancouver or Victoria and NOT be able to find a maple leaf within viewing distance at all times. It’s probably not noticeable to you because you are used to it. All kinds of businesses fly the flag. Even McDonald has a maple leaf added to the Golden Arches. I’ve paid attention to it.

There is no judgement on this, just an observation.

12-19-2018 , 12:30 AM

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I have a sneaking suspicion that people who trash King as worthless genre fiction have never read anything he's written. That's not to say it's spectacular literature, but it's valuable, and future generations looking to understand contemporary small town America will find a lot of truth there that has been overlooked by everybody else.