The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. - Page 5331 - Politics and Economics

Trump won the military vote in spite of insulting a genuine war hero for getting captured and dodging service himself. He won the white woman vote in spite of saying rape is cool. He won the religious vote in spite of being completely non-religious, divorced several times, and having multiple affairs with porn stars, and most likely paying for abortions. He won the anti-immigrant vote in spite of the laughable claim that Mexico would pay for his wall, a claim now proven false for those too stupid to know it would never happen.

It's just hard to see anything he can do or say that will make him lose support among his cult. I try to figure out how he won in the first place, and it's almost impossible.

Go back to 2004 and find that clip of Howard Dean yelling "YEAH!!!" in the voice of a ten year old boy after the Iowa caucuses. In that one mildly embarrassing moment his career as a candidate for political office was finished. He was done. Just for that. And now, not that long afterwards, we have Trump. And about that, you've said it all bro.

12-23-2018 , 02:13 PM

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bacalaopeace

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Trump voters, Brexit, Catalan independence, yellow jacketers in France, Italy, etc. all have similar origins. They are a mix of "Make Colonial Power X Great Again" and utopian solutions to the socioeconomic crisis that has destroyed the aspirations and ambitions of the middle class in North American and Europe. Racism and xenophobia are corollaries, not causes, that are expertly exploited by the bottom feeding fools that fill the void left by the traditional political class, whose toadying to corporate powers underlies the general disaffection and the widespread rejection of the traditional political class.

12-23-2018 , 02:18 PM

#133253

smacc25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Truant

Y’all are trying too hard. The reason USA is #1 is because anybody, even an idiot tv show host, can rise to the position of most powerful person in the world. That can’t happen in other places.

Further, even before they are elected president they **** on your tv show hosts. There is no tv show host on any station anywhere except the United States that could call Trump a pussy and prompt a government shut down.

US tv show hosts are the most powerful and it’s not close. The delta between number one and two is miles wide (not kilometers).

Lmao....So true.

12-23-2018 , 02:20 PM

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TheDuker

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Originally Posted by chytry

Do even his supporters think that this is some kind of incredible selfless sacrifice?

Yes, an underappreciated aspect of Trumpism is the idea that Trump is the epitome of selfless sacrifice and martyrdom.

Sentiment heard at many a rally: Here was this super rich and successful businessman and celebrity, living a billionaire's dream life in New York, and he gave all of that up because he loves America so much, and he wants nothing more than to save the nation from the failures of weak Obama/Clinton democrats. He could be relaxing on a beach somewhere, and instead he voluntarily took on the thankless task of getting up every day and fighting for America! And in return he gets abused and attacked by the Fake News Media constantly, even his family is attacked mercilessly by the jealous haters, yadda, yadda, yadda. We should all thank God for President Trump every day. He's basically Jesus.

The reality of course: KhizrKhan.gif - "YOU'VE SACRIFICED NOTHING!!"

12-23-2018 , 02:22 PM

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markksman

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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant

Pretty much this. Suck it rest of the world.

12-23-2018 , 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Too busy stuffing my face with eggs Benedict to google it but I think Americans travel much less than other western countries and, as already pointed out, it’s far less in red states.

Of course it's true.

Here's one reason why: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ave_by_country

12-23-2018 , 02:43 PM

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Melkerson

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Originally Posted by superleeds

We don't agree. You appear to think that letter leaves no questions as to why Mattis resigned. I know the letter was written the way it was so it could be spun a few different ways depending on the audience. That not taking responsibility that's being a sniveling c***.

Well I guess that letter was so ambiguous that Trump just had to fire him early:

Trump, Angry Over Mattis’s Rebuke, Removes Him 2 Months Early

Maybe the Fox and Friends spin machine was broken.

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12-23-2018 , 02:48 PM

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Melkerson

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Originally Posted by TheDuker

+1. I have heard bolded a handful of times from real life deplorables.

12-23-2018 , 02:49 PM

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m_reed05

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Lol the defenses of Trump are getting a little less full throated.

12-23-2018 , 02:55 PM

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Clovis8

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Of course it's true.

Here's one reason why: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ave_by_country

Wow that map is grim. Talk about unbalanced priorities.

12-23-2018 , 03:05 PM

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jalfrezi

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Wow that map is grim. Talk about unbalanced priorities.

I remember saying that to wil once, and got lambasted for being a weak pussy Euro for not wanting to work every waking hour I could.

I guess it's the inherited American way, with suckers believing working stupidly long hours gives them a much better shot at the jackpot.

12-23-2018 , 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by microbet

Speaking of Paris and Muslims and back to my daughter and her time in the Paris riots, for those few days adding there she was staying in one of the Muslim suburbs in an air-bnb room with a Moroccan family.

Montmartre?

12-23-2018 , 03:46 PM

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realDonaldTrump

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12-23-2018 , 03:56 PM

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ScreaminAsian

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I like that trump didn't listen to Mattis as he was resigning, and definitely didn't read his resignation letter, but once CNN and Fox interpreted the letter for him he got mad and fired Mattis early.

Never since William Henry Harrisson has a president been this out of it

Lock him up

12-23-2018 , 03:57 PM

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realDonaldTrump

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12-23-2018 , 03:59 PM

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fatkid

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Lol prevelegedd

12-23-2018 , 04:00 PM

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bacalaopeace

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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant

Amazingly, people think this way in countries like England, France, Spain, Russia, Germany. All it takes to think this way is that at sometime in history the country was the world superpower, even if it was centuries ago.

12-23-2018 , 04:01 PM

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microbet

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He signed a Farm Bill. Most productive administration ever!!!

12-23-2018 , 04:01 PM

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True North

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so priveledged

12-23-2018 , 04:02 PM

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jalfrezi

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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace

Some older people perhaps, but not many overall these days.

12-23-2018 , 04:06 PM

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Matty Lice

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Originally Posted by chytry

Do even his supporters think that this is some kind of incredible selfless sacrifice?

12-23-2018 , 04:15 PM

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wheatrich

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back to the fincen is all ****ed up story that is a major scandal in every other time but dwarfed now

Also our gov't is fighting with other divisions in our gov't because why wouldn't they it's a bunch of stupid dudes with egos.

12-23-2018 , 04:21 PM

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realDonaldTrump

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12-23-2018 , 04:28 PM

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wheatrich

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Also trump was attacking the fed chair for raising interest rates because trump has variable loans so it cost him money. It's always something to do with him randomly attacking people he forgot existed out of nowhere.

12-23-2018 , 04:39 PM

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Rococo

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Too busy stuffing my face with eggs Benedict to google it but I think Americans travel much less than other western countries and, as already pointed out, it’s far less in red states.

Which, again, wasn't my point. My question was whether there has been a change in American travel patterns that would explain, at least in part, how the same country that elected Obama in 2008 and 2012 could elect Trump in 2016. I assume the answer to that question is no.

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