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08-17-2018 , 12:41 PM

#115001

microbet

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Something weird is happening like maybe CDL and IEnjoyChicken are the same poster.

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08-17-2018 , 12:49 PM

#115002

uDevil

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More evidence that Trump's NDAs aren't worth much. Trump's lawyers are no match for this lady representing herself.

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/stat...247183873?s=19

08-17-2018 , 12:50 PM

#115003

ecriture d'adulte

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noze

Unrealized gains at a certain point definitely should be taxed, lol at carrying water for these people.

Thanks! This view was somehow simultaneously the standard position that’s ridiculous to oppose AND a straw man nobody actually believes.

08-17-2018 , 12:51 PM

#115004

IEnjoyChicken

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Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Something weird is happening like maybe CDL and IEnjoyChicken are the same poster.

wat

08-17-2018 , 12:53 PM

#115005

prana

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When Kids are locked up, “we need a wall!”

Manafort trial, “sad day in American history.”

08-17-2018 , 12:53 PM

#115006

CalledDownLight

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 88,414

Quote:

Originally Posted by spidercrab

The point is that you wouldn't look at the expected value of wealth if you're trying to assess the incentives that you claim to care about so much. Instead, you'd focus on the expected utility of the choices faced by potential entrepreneurs. And dramatic increases in expected wealth do not imply dramatic (or even any) increases in expected utility.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IEnjoyChicken

But expected utility is all that matters.

Huh? Why?

(I guess someone else was making that argument...)

But expected utility differs between people. I may view the marginal dollar at a net worth of $1mm as worth 80% of one at $100k and you might view it as worth 40% as much. I don't think either view is right or wrong and I don't think we should seek to assign a value to it.

Other people (notably Wooderson) have argued the forceful seizure of wealth should happen and resistance should be met with death on this forum.

08-17-2018 , 01:03 PM

#115007

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IEnjoyChicken

wat

Yes. Everyone who joins 2p2 to post in politics and starts off at full speed is a gimmick/previously banned poster. And you joined to talk about hating Warren and that not being mysogynistic.

Can someone with mod powers IP check these two?

08-17-2018 , 01:13 PM

#115008

microbet

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The whole tax on unrealized gains thread is a strawman/goal post shift. The original argument was just about whether Bezos is an ahole or not and that's really what it's been all along. No one, not CDL/IEC, ecriture, Fly or any of the other guillotiners are really here for the tax debate. It's all about whether he's your Howard Roark or Daniel Plainview.

08-17-2018 , 01:21 PM

#115009

FlyWf

It's the other way

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

I like CDL's assumption that Warren is widely hated outside of the frothy fringe that takes its marching orders directly from the oligarchy.

Everyone at his job hates her because she tried to make them stop scamming people and scamming people is literally their business model lol so he assumes "hating Elizabeth Warren" is a thing ****ing anyone does.

What other 2p2 poster hates her, CDL?

08-17-2018 , 01:26 PM

#115010

FlyWf

It's the other way

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Anyone who thinks wealth correlates to merit under unrestrained capitalism should read one CDL post then ask him if he's homeless

08-17-2018 , 01:31 PM

#115011

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The wealth=merit idea didn't have that much to do with Trump beating Hillary, but it did have something to do with Trump winning the nomination. Numbskulls still think he has to be smart because he made a lot of money.

08-17-2018 , 01:37 PM

#115012

StimAbuser

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Can you guys stop getting keeded

08-17-2018 , 01:37 PM

#115013

IEnjoyChicken

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

I do have another account but it is not banned as far as I am aware. It is not CDL. IP check will confirm.

08-17-2018 , 01:38 PM

#115014

ScreaminAsian

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https://twitter.com/axios/status/1030508419596345345

08-17-2018 , 01:41 PM

#115015

amoeba

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

It was partially this. The more problematic issue was numbskulls thinking that his wealth made him incorruptible.

08-17-2018 , 01:43 PM

#115016

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IEnjoyChicken

I do have another account but it is not banned as far as I am aware. It is not CDL. IP check will confirm.

Well who are you?

08-17-2018 , 01:43 PM

#115017

CalledDownLight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

I think Bezos is an *******, but that he should still be allowed to keep his wealth as it pertains to his ownership stake in Amazon.

08-17-2018 , 01:43 PM

#115018

Trolly McTrollson

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Who let CDL in here.

08-17-2018 , 01:44 PM

#115019

WichitaDM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1030508419596345345

Everything wrong with dem party in a nutshell here. He had it right the first time FFS.

08-17-2018 , 01:46 PM

#115020

CalledDownLight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

I don't think many posters on 2p2 hate her which is exactly the reason that I said "I hate Elizabeth Warren as much, if not more, than probably any poster on this site."

My statement was factual. It was also preceding a statement where I suggest this specific plan might be viable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Anyone who thinks wealth correlates to merit under unrestrained capitalism should read one CDL post then ask him if he's homeless

Wealth does correlate to merit. That correlation is nowhere near 1, but its also not 0.

08-17-2018 , 01:47 PM

#115021

TrollyWantACracker

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When I was young and my little brother wanted a toy or comic book that I didn't use anymore I would give it to him, but only after he did a sufficiently enthusiastic tap dance while singing "I want that thing" until I doubled over in laughter. I feel like we could arrange a similar requirement for unrealized gains.

08-17-2018 , 01:48 PM

#115022

StimAbuser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WichitaDM

Everything wrong with dem party in a nutshell here. He had it right the first time FFS.

I blame the voters. Even most dem voters would be offended if you said America was never great. This is what's wrong with Americans and their false American identity of being the world leader in being the good guys.