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Question:

I know that in certain extreme circumstances like murder plots, attorneys are expected to divulge privileged conversations. And that they normally would never divulge anything else to avoid getting disbarred. But what if they do anyway? Are they breaking the law? Can that info be used as evidence against their client?

Would you tell everyone at the table what your hole cards are? DUCY?

04-21-2018 , 04:03 PM

#95053

LFS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by superleeds

I believe it’s already been reported that he is not going because his appearance would cause protests and the family asked him not too

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WaPo article I read (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.71b6f72fc9da) says:

Quote:

Not in attendance at the Saturday service was President Trump, who wanted to “avoid disruptions” out of respect for the Bush family, the White House said.

I guess maybe you could read that either way.

But regardless I still don't believe that "protests" are the reason they don't want him there. Unless they're talking about protests from the family of the deceased, the deceased herself, or the rest of the attendees. In which case yeah I believe that.

04-21-2018 , 04:04 PM

#95054

Louis Cyphre

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danspartan

"We'll talk again at Donald's funeral."

04-21-2018 , 04:05 PM

#95055

Matty Lice

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danspartan

https://twitter.com/bobcesca_go/stat...267318272?s=21

Where is Mike Pence to stop this madness?

04-21-2018 , 04:06 PM

#95056

Matty Lice

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre

"We'll talk again at Donald's funeral."

"You gonna call ICE on me?"

04-21-2018 , 04:07 PM

#95057

ScreaminAsian

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it’s just so strange, why wouldn’t they want a boorish moron who makes everything about himself to attend the funeral? must be the fault of democrats somehow... protesting, yeah.

04-21-2018 , 04:16 PM

#95058

LFS

emo gaylord

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"Yes, Mr. President, it's just that we've received intelligence that there's a non-zero chance that Mrs. Bush may actually rise from the casket in an attempt to confront you, to what end we do not know. The Secret Service does not currently have a security protocol in place to counter an attack from the undead, and we feel that the optics of firing upon the zombie corpse of the former First Lady would be harmful in the midterms."

04-21-2018 , 04:26 PM

#95059

markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

just talking about pardons again for no reason just because the topic came up not because of the criminal investigation into his mafia crime family

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...68453338673152

Zero percent chance Trump knew Johnson was black when he tweeted that. Nice job Sly.

04-21-2018 , 04:37 PM

#95060

epcfast

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Sly had him once violating the Mann Act was explained to him.

04-21-2018 , 04:42 PM

#95061

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

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Must be reassuring to know that your justice system is now predicated on phone chats between the president and the star of stop or my mom will shoot. Another great success story for The Constitution!

04-21-2018 , 05:00 PM

#95062

Matty Lice

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LOL he can't even allow Barbara Bush to have her day. Nope, he brags about Sly and pardons.

04-21-2018 , 05:29 PM

#95063

ScreaminAsian

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[photo of president donald trump alone in bed stuffing his fat face with even more food while watching tv not found]

04-21-2018 , 05:32 PM

#95064

Matty Lice

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The Obamas sure seem to be loving life. I wonder if they see the long term damage Trump is doing to the GOP on a level that the rest of us don't.

04-21-2018 , 05:36 PM

#95065

Louis Cyphre

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Does anybody have insight into how different the security is for a sitting president compared to four former presidents and current and former first ladies plus whoever else important is in attendance?

04-21-2018 , 05:47 PM

#95066

microbet

Solar Powered

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Sitting potus hasn't generally attended former first lady funerals.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/ob...al-attendance/

04-21-2018 , 06:04 PM

#95067

Rococo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

The attorney would not be breaking the law. But if the information did not fall under the crime-fraud exception, the attorney would be violating his or her ethical obligations, and would be subject to disciplinary action, including disbarment, I suppose, if the conduct were egregious enough. If the information did not fall under the crime fraud exception, I highly doubt that it would be admissible. Lawyers can’t waive the AC privilege. Only the client can do that.

04-21-2018 , 07:15 PM

#95068

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

It seems close to 100% Cohen flips right? I mean he is a pure low life. Why on earth would he not insta flip to save his own hide.

There is the part where he's married to a Ukrainian mob boss's daughter.

04-21-2018 , 07:18 PM

#95069

OmgGlutten!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iron81

You don't leave the Senate anvd give your seat to a Democrat unless you really want the job.

he won by a nose hair when it turned out the other guy was a pedophile. That seat had like an 80% change of being red when he retired.

04-21-2018 , 07:22 PM

#95070

eyebooger

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

he won by a nose hair when it turned out the other guy was a pedophile. That seat had like an 80%change of being red when he retired.

WAY too low. It was closer to 99%.

04-21-2018 , 07:42 PM

#95071

alazo1985

journeyman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

he won by a nose hair when it turned out the other guy was a pedophile. That seat had like an 80% change of being red when he retired.

A more nuanced look is this:

Luther Strange has broad appeal but little excitement

Roy Moore had great excitement but limited appeal, and drove many mainstream R to consider voting D or sitting out.

Prior to the pedophile allegations the Moore/Jones race was already razor thin. The pedofilia barely tipped the needle. The people that would support someone like Roy Moore to begin with wouldn’t be dissuaded by allegations made via WaPo regardless of their credibility: they are so brainwashed that they wait for marching orders when they see something that despicable.

04-21-2018 , 08:23 PM

#95072

OmgGlutten!

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Citation that the pedo stuff was not the tipping point?

04-21-2018 , 09:35 PM

#95073

RainierWolfcastle

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It sounded a little self-serving, but Doug Jones' campaign manager said on a Vox podcast that they thought the pedo allegations had little impact and maybe hurt Jones a bit by bringing political tribalism deeper into the race.