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02-26-2018 , 02:20 AM
I'm about 90% sure that the troll appointments like Pruitt, Rick Perry, DeVos etc. were due to Bannon.
02-26-2018 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by iron81
I'm about 90% sure that the troll appointments like Pruitt, Rick Perry, DeVos etc. were due to Bannon.
And Miller. Rich white racist men who will deconstruct the administrative state.
02-26-2018 , 03:01 AM
Look at the person to your left and to your right. If neither support Trump, you're the author of a popular poker book.
02-26-2018 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawnmower Man
Look at the person to your left and to your right. If neither support Trump, you're the author of a popular poker book.
Savage!
02-26-2018 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawnmower Man
Look at the person to your left and to your right. If neither support Trump, you're the author of a popular poker book.
Good people on both sides.
02-26-2018 , 04:04 AM
The number of civilian justifiable homicides is ~1% of the number of suicides / accidental deaths / murders by intimate partner

02-26-2018 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
I let Mason worry about stuff like that. I worry about posters making bad probability mistakes, even if it doesn't relate to politics issues. But the fact is it often does.

Thank you for your service
02-26-2018 , 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by iron81
I'm about 90% sure that the troll appointments like Pruitt, Rick Perry, DeVos etc. were due to Bannon.
I don't think it matters too much. Pretty much all business movement conservatives are literal trolls to their respective department of expertise. I'm old enough to remember when G W Bush came into office and filled the Civil Rights division of the Justice Department with lawyers who expressly didn't believe discrimination against minors was possible except in the most extreme of circumstances.
02-26-2018 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
I don't think it matters too much. Pretty much all business movement conservatives are literal trolls to their respective department of expertise. I'm old enough to remember when G W Bush came into office and filled the Civil Rights division of the Justice Department with lawyers who expressly didn't believe discrimination against minors was possible except in the most extreme of circumstances.
You are conflating difference of opinion with incompetence.
02-26-2018 , 09:48 AM
Incompetence and awful views might be better than competence and awful views. Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump.
02-26-2018 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump.
Then you havnt been paying attention the last 2 years.

With Cruz we get standard conservative policy. With trump we get same plus the unravelling of US democracy. Let's not forget we are drawing live for nuclear holocaust as a special bonus.
02-26-2018 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
You are conflating difference of opinion with incompetence.
Not much of a difference to the outcomes of the department in either case. Pruitt and Zinke are competent while Carson isn't but all have a cadre of conservative think tankers several rows deep telling them what to do.
02-26-2018 , 10:24 AM
Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump

Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump

Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump

Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump

Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump

Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump
02-26-2018 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Then you havnt been paying attention the last 2 years.

With Cruz we get standard conservative policy. With trump we get same plus the unravelling of US democracy. Let's not forget we are drawing live for nuclear holocaust as a special bonus.
Yeah, and he's surrounded himself with and empowered those evil/competent people anyway. Sessions and Pence alone are worse than Cruz
02-26-2018 , 10:40 AM
I remember watching something on A&E or one of those channels about Trump's plane. It featured lots of footage of the pilot making sure everything on the plane was exactly how Trump wanted it, like making sure that all the gold and such was polished to a fine luster. And I remember thinking "Jesus, I would really prefer my actual pilot to concern themselves more with, like, safety and flying the plane than polishing the faucets."
02-26-2018 , 10:46 AM
Sorry to interrupt if there was an ongoing conversation, but as a newbie here what I have picked up from following the discussions is that pretty much everyone seems to agree that Trump is probably the most controversial President in recent history. Do you guys figure he'll actually finish his full term in office? I know this is unusual but I'm genuinely wondering what the consensus about this is because I myself am not entirely certain he will not at one point ***k up so badly for our conutry that he will trigger an avalanche he won't be able to stop. This is the only thing this guy seems to be truly capable off, causing trouble beyond what he can control.
02-26-2018 , 10:48 AM
I think he will finish his term. Think there's less than a 25% chance he doesn't
02-26-2018 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by grizy
I honestly have no idea but if Facebook can't figure something out, we're all ****ed.
Then we're all ****ed, FB is pretty good at not figuring **** out. They can't figure out the interface, they can't figure out how to monetize their site, they can't figure out how to make a single change that doesn't piss off all their users.
02-26-2018 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bestwords76
Sorry to interrupt if there was an ongoing conversation, but as a newbie here what I have picked up from following the discussions is that pretty much everyone seems to agree that Trump is probably the most controversial President in recent history. Do you guys figure he'll actually finish his full term in office? I know this is unusual but I'm genuinely wondering what the consensus about this is because I myself am not entirely certain he will not at one point ***k up so badly for our conutry that he will trigger an avalanche he won't be able to stop. This is the only thing this guy seems to be truly capable off, causing trouble beyond what he can control.
Trump most likely finishes his first term.

Only chances of otherwise are:

KFC induced heart explosion.

Mueller + Dem wave in 2018 that makes Trump a pariah and peels off enough R's in senate to throw him out.

Neither one of those are likely at all.
02-26-2018 , 10:58 AM
I don't know if there is a consensus. I think it's totally up in the air.
02-26-2018 , 11:02 AM
The problem with a full Trump term (or...*gulp*...2 terms) is that it gives his administration time to pull a China and do away with term limits. Ok, it's not the problem, it's one of many bad things that can happen to our democracy or the world.

Hopefully Mueller sees the position he's in as more than just election interference cop and doubles as American Savior as well. I could see the investigation end game as a deal where Trump has to resign in exchange for reduced charges for himself and/or his family.
02-26-2018 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump

Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump

Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump

Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump

Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump

Like I'm still not sure that I'd prefer having Ted Cruz as president instead of Trump
I thought I might feel this way fourteen months ago, because I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY hated Ted Cruz. But in light of reality not sure how anyone can Kling to this belief.
02-26-2018 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LFS
I remember watching something on A&E or one of those channels about Trump's plane. It featured lots of footage of the pilot making sure everything on the plane was exactly how Trump wanted it, like making sure that all the gold and such was polished to a fine luster. And I remember thinking "Jesus, I would really prefer my actual pilot to concern themselves more with, like, safety and flying the plane than polishing the faucets."
Yeah but imagine if you slurped Trump’s narcissistic nonsense for decades then one day he gives you the FAA.
02-26-2018 , 11:19 AM


WELL I NEVER!



Vietor 100% right here

https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/968142252378763264
02-26-2018 , 11:21 AM
Think there's less than a 25% chance of Trump finishing his term, there's something to this Russia stuff, Mueller will get to it near the end of 2018 and the fallout will be massive.

      
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