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01-02-2018 , 10:02 AM

#72501

Chippa58

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I love the random capitalization of "Classified Passwords" and the question mark after "Deep State Justice Dept must finally act?" Classic Trump.

01-02-2018 , 10:06 AM

#72502

Huehuecoyotl

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That is a deep cut in the right wing derposphere

01-02-2018 , 10:11 AM

#72503

FlyWf

It's the other way

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No, Trump doesn't do deep cuts, incredibly the gumshoes at the Daily Caller are still on the EMAILZ beat:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/01/ab...oreign-agents/

It's really incredibly that I think the allegation here is that she was leaking classified information to herself.

01-02-2018 , 10:23 AM

#72504

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

It's really incredibly that I think the allegation here is that she was leaking classified information to herself.

Democrats are traitors so by forwarding her passwords to herself she was sending them to someone who hates america. Obvious collusion, sad!

01-02-2018 , 10:26 AM

#72505

ChrisV

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

Nah, man. Trump IS the Trump base. He's all in. This is grade A right wing conspiritarding that only people who watch FOX six hours a day understand. Like we're pretty plugged into this stuff here itf, and I honestly have no idea what he's talking about.

This. Fox and Friends had just reported on the Daily Caller article that Fly linked. I had to look the sailors on submarines thing up. Some navy guy on a submarine got jailed for taking photos of the engineering area of a nuclear sub:

Quote:

“I take responsibility for what I did—I made a mistake when I was a young guy—I was 22 at the time. And I took some pictures because I was really proud of the job that I did in the military and I wanted to be able to remember it,” Saucier told Ashley Webster on Varney & Co. Friday. “I think the punishment issued out to me was a little extreme but I was willing to accept it—that’s why I plead[ed] guilty.”

At issue for Saucier is that “punishment isn’t doled out evenly,” and people like Hillary Clinton, John Podesta and Huma Abedin have committed more serious acts.

“I’m not trying to minimize what I did, I made a mistake, but the photos I took were confidential, which the lowest tier of classification is,” he said. “Whereas the information they mishandled was top secret SEI which is the highest-- and I got a year in prison and she was allowed to run for President and there doesn’t appear to be any kind of punishment for what they did.”

I mean, he has a point. No harm was done by his taking the photos and while investigators alleged intent of espionage, it doesn't seem likely. But his point is, or should be, that he received too harsh a sentence, not that Clinton should be LOCKED UP.

01-02-2018 , 10:28 AM

#72506

ChrisV

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To really grasp the point that Trump IS Trump's base, I recommend looking at @trumps_feed if you haven't already. It retweets everything tweeted by accounts Trump follows, thus creating a feed that is the same as what he sees when he uses Twitter. It's eye opening. It's just wall to wall right wing garbage, interspersed with the occasional article from more serious right wing sources like the WSJ.

01-02-2018 , 10:51 AM

#72507

Fatal Checkraise

Pooh-Bah

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I think he might be losing it...

Lying about the tax bill:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...89482284707840
Talking about ROCKET MAN (we will see, stay tuned!):

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...94400114487296
Taking credit for there being 0 deaths in commercial air traffic this year:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...95478428102657
And now he started a tweet about the FAILING NYT.

01-02-2018 , 10:54 AM

#72508

Fatal Checkraise

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The ****ing random quotation marks are killing me

01-02-2018 , 11:03 AM

#72509

Coasterbrad

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There hasn't been a fatal passenger airline crash in the US since 2009.

01-02-2018 , 11:10 AM

#72510

Mightyboosh

mmm mmm good

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If I knew nothing else about Tump (unfortunately I know all too much ), the fact that he bragged about forcing himself on women would have been enough to stop me voting for him. The justifications for that, that I've heard a billion times from Tump voters, are literally unbelievable, especially from women.

01-02-2018 , 11:13 AM

#72511

Namath12

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Bear Patrol continues to do the lord's work

01-02-2018 , 11:14 AM

#72512

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatal Checkraise

It's kind of adorable he keeps talking about the Deep State DOJ needing to do things. We're lucky he doesn't realize he can just tell the Keebler Elf to do this ****.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatal Checkraise

Hmm, this seems like disgusting liberal regulation strangling the rights of the airlines to crash planes to save money.

01-02-2018 , 11:21 AM

#72513

otatop

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01-02-2018 , 11:22 AM

#72514

Matty Lice

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatal Checkraise

The ****ing random quotation marks are killing me

It reminds me of the Impractical Jokers episode where they tell Murr to air quote people at the wrong time.

01-02-2018 , 11:23 AM

#72515

Victor

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holy crap taking credit for airline safety is legit insanity

01-02-2018 , 11:24 AM

#72516

Huehuecoyotl

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This is straight up delusional. Trump ends the DACA program, doesn't do anything to jump start the legislation, has Miller, the racist Gargamel, who's only joy in life is f*cking over all immigrants, as his immigration policy maker, and now is blaming Dems for obstruction? Jesus Christ. There's willing your own reality and then there's trying to control the space time continuum itself.

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01-02-2018 , 11:27 AM

#72517

Matty Lice

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You know what it is? He got his ass kissed all weekend by morons that shelled over $750 to party with him. They stroked his ego and now he's telling the rest of the world how smart he is.

01-02-2018 , 11:30 AM

#72518

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty Lice

You know what it is? He got his ass kissed all weekend by morons that shelled over $750 to party with him. They stroked his ego and now he's telling the rest of the world how smart he is.

This is probably spot on

01-02-2018 , 11:42 AM

#72519

otatop

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Look, if the Dems really cared about DACA they'd approve $20 billion to build a border wall.

Republicans would never offer something like that then **** them over, no sir.

01-02-2018 , 11:47 AM

#72520

microbet

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Trump is on quite the senile-old-idiot-got-his-hands-on-twitter tear lately even by his standards.

01-02-2018 , 12:10 PM

#72521

ScreaminAsian

For President

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awval is reading trump's tweets saying "YES, FINALLY someone is saying what we've all been thinking"

01-02-2018 , 12:16 PM

#72522

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Trump is on quite the senile-old-idiot-got-his-hands-on-twitter tear lately even by his standards.

He's gotta catch up after spending the last 7 days golfing.

01-02-2018 , 12:20 PM

#72523

Max Cut

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Back to work M'ing AGA.

01-02-2018 , 12:22 PM

#72524

ScreaminAsian

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trump would much rather be a king than a president. that's why he prefers to live at his personal properties where he controls everything and everyone is there to kiss his ass. every time he has to stay in the white house he gets overall angry mood and we're getting a sense of that thanks to his unshakeable twitter compulsion

01-02-2018 , 12:35 PM

#72525

Huehuecoyotl

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To Trump’s left was his secretary of state, Rex Tillerson. “Rex tells me you don’t want me to use the military option in Venezuela,” the president told the gathered Latin American leaders, according to an account offered by an attendee soon after the dinner. “Is that right? Are you sure?” Everyone said they were sure. But they were rattled. War with Venezuela, as absurd as that seemed, was clearly still on Trump’s mind.

By the time the dinner was over, the leaders were in shock, and not just over the idle talk of armed conflict.

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I spoke was briefed by ministers from three of the four countries that attended the dinner. “Without fail, they just had wide eyes about the entire engagement,” the former official told me. Even if few took his martial bluster about Venezuela seriously, Trump struck them as uninformed about their issues and dangerously unpredictable, asking them to expend political capital on behalf of a U.S. that no longer seemed a reliable partner. “The word they all used was: ‘This guy is insane.’”

Quote:

Seasoned diplomats who have seen Trump up close throw around words like “catastrophic,” “terrifying,” “incompetent” and “dangerous.” In Berlin this spring, I listened to a group of sober policy wonks debate whether Trump was merely a “laughingstock” or something more dangerous.

Quote:

Another conversation, with Jared Kushner, the presidential son-in-law who had been given an expansive international portfolio ranging from restarting Middle East peace talks to dealing with Mexico and China, was just as troubling. Kushner was “very dismissive” about the role of international institutions and alliances and uninterested in the European’s recounting of how closely the United States had stood together with Western Europe since World War II. “He told me, ‘I’m a businessman, and I don’t care about the past. Old allies can be enemies, or enemies can be friends.’ So, the past doesn’t count,” the official recalled. “I was taken aback. It was frightening.”

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ngerous-216202

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