Not every day that the opposing party has more influence over the President than his own party.

bahaahahahahahahahaah

I think that new Trump baby emerged from a slime covered glowing pod.

Our boy really really hates the browns.

Cool. We will parachute you in in the morn. God speed.

this **** really might work

plus the only person he actually cares about, ivanka, wants desperately to be accepted by rich liberals in nyc

this is actually the reason a fair amount of #NeverTrump conservatives took the stance they did, because of the fear that Trump was really a Democrat who'd do stuff like support DACA and work with Schumer/Pelosi.

Note the date:



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I wish I had more faith in rich liberals.

3* more years of Trump pretending to know and have great secret plans about things he has no idea about.

Which country is he referring to?

But he is really smart. People say so.

Trump doesn't like to be hated, we need to lay it on thick every time he does something that gives liberals what we want. He may (likely) hold genuine white supremacist views but he'll at least try to keep them in check for that sweet sweet NYT praise. If he's going to be a useful idiot, might as well try and get him to be our useful idiot. Note to DS: this does not make him good, or even close to good, just a tool to be used. That said I'll give you partial credit as Trump does seem to be leaning towards protecting dreamers, whatever his motivation may be. Like he may be calling them rapists again tomorrow but at least his current stance has the base frothy af.

Also positioned anti-fascists as "the other side."

Hundreds of millions of years

Yeah, it goes great to grope juice.

What I have said is that he is only 40% as bad as you guys think. And that he is not at all comparable to Hitler. (Except he might have, after reading his book, decided to adopt Hitler's "big lie" strategy.) And that if he was more knowledgeable and less nutty he would be preferable to his Republican opponents except maybe Kasich, Pateki, Bush, and Rubio.

My guess is that my opinion is one shared by both Chuck Schumer and Barrack Obama.

jimmy got it right?

Yes except I am going a lot further than Carter. The idea that Cruz was preferable to Trump was never one that even the crew here ever fully accepted.

Where does Pence fall in the equation?

Shouldn't we wait to see if he helps dreamers or are we taking trump at his words now? Personally ill believe it when i see it. Especially after he sees the push back from the deplorables.

We had this debate a lot during the primaries. I don't see why the leftist should prefer Trump to Cruz or vice versa.

Strident right winger ideologues like Cruz who are otherwise professional politicians remain highly dangerous. I would not necessarily prefer Cruz over Trump.

But that is no great argument for Trump. Perhaps we might find a more knowledgeable, more mentally stable, less immature version of Trump preferable to Cruz. But the real world doesn't offer us that choice. Trump is a would-be fascist, constrained only by popular opinion rather than any principle. Sure, he's malleable. That's both a feature and a bug. His inner core is seemingly wedded to most of the generic white identity politics sentiments and it's coupled with a vague right-wing populism, but he's just unsophisticated enough to be conned by Nancy and Chuck or to simply not bother himself too much with ideological consistency. That's nice sometimes, sure, but it's a dangerous personality trait too and makes him highly susceptible to really disastrous, bad decisions that even Ted Cruz would have the wherewithal or stability not to make.

Unfortunately the context of our times like the Leviathan American surveillance state, the size of government influence on the global economy, and our huge nuclear arsenal make him particularly dangerous. He would be far, far less dangerous as a late 19th century President, a time for which he seems particularly suited. As an early 21st century President, he's a small risk to human existence. That makes him hard to prefer over Cruz and Kasich and the other hardcore right-wingers who at least slow-roll their destructive capacities.

I don't disagree. I said he would be preferable to them only if he was sane. I do however think that he actually does think it is important to be correct as long as it doesn't interfere with his other goals. So with issues like deporting Dreamers his stance is not due to his malleability or desire to be liked, but rather because he thinks that any other stance is obviously wrong. But again my opinion comes from personal experiences with people like him which I suspect you do not have.

He clearly doesn't GAF about Dreamers (probably hates them, tbh). He just wants a "win."

If he did think the Dreamers deserved to be in America, he wouldn't have rescinded DACA in the first place and threatened that Congress needed to do something within 6 months. He would have either a) just left DACA alone, or b) left DACA alone for now and encouraged Congress to come up with official legislation just to make it all neat and tidy.

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