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07-31-2017 , 10:37 AM
Trump isn't a rational choice for anyone since his instability leads to far greater future uncertainty. Also he's a giant moron who shouldn't be in charge of an EZ Bake oven, let alone a damn country. There was never any rational reason for anyone to support Trump except fringy dumb reasons like racism and having abortion/guns as your single issue for voting.
07-31-2017 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
Correct. It was during his time in the us attorneys office that multiple staffers alleged and confirmed his casual and repeated use of the word ******
Sessions reminds me of this guy from Curb Your Enthusiasm:

07-31-2017 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
I have tried to learn more from the author screamingasian brought up yesterday, Timothy Snyder. He has lived alot in eastern europe to study these things. Im actually getting more worried that democracy is slipping away now in the US. I always thought trump was too confused and unfocused to have any plan or such to take over, but it seems like thats not how these guys actually do it. Its just that they come into office and start pushing against institutions not necessarily with a plan in mind, and this way gaining more and more space together with the removal of the belief that there exists facts. When there is no facts or common understanding there is no trust and democracy fails without trust, this is at the center of other faschist takeovers. There is indeed a number of alarming similarities that he explains that you might want to have a look at. I just posted the video from vox that shows how the republicans first embraced the climate change and now denies it, i think that would show that contesting or denying facts had a turning point before this election.

His book at amazon is a manual that tells you whats going on and what you can do.

On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century

He says there is a limited time period where activism is possible, i think i would concider that if i lived in the US now.
Yea the problem with assuming that Trump is too dumb to bring down democracy is the implication that guys like Erdogan, Orban, or Duterte are actually smart.
07-31-2017 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
Yea the problem with assuming that Trump is too dumb to bring down democracy is the implication that guys like Erdogan, Orban, or Duterte are actually smart.
Also forgetting whether these people are dumb, the fact that the world has a bunch of examples of backsliding, regressive tendencies in former democracies or countries that were trending toward freedom, and the fact we are seeing reflexive moves to authoritarianism is itself suggestive of a problem that doesn't fit neatly on the smart/dumb axis. You forgot some other important examples of authoritarianism and repression rising (Poland, Venezuela).

Minor but while I like Timothy Snyder and think he does important work especially now -- there should be more historians talking directly to the public (the nation's best selling historian right now is Bill ****ing O'Reilly) -- I think he's telling too much of a just-so story at the moment.
07-31-2017 , 10:58 AM
This is the first time RASMUSSEN has tracked him at sub 40%, big news imo.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 39% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Sixty-one percent (61%) disapprove.

The latest figures for Trump include 26% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 49% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -23. (see trends).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ez_track_jul31

drudge has it highlighted red on his page as he slowly turns against the clown show
07-31-2017 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
drudge has it highlighted red on his page as he slowly turns against the clown show
Just went on there for maybe the first time ever.

That's seriously what the website normally looks like‽
07-31-2017 , 11:39 AM
Those alt-right sites have some of the worst web design I've ever seen. Some look like Geocities web pages from the late 90s.
07-31-2017 , 11:43 AM
Drudge *is* an early 90's site. He's never updated the design. That's the OG alt-right.
07-31-2017 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
If you notice, the things I make a big deal about are confirmed and on video. I can't help it if nobody watches.

Things that I mention in passing or ask questions about or that I clearly indicate I'm speculating on...other people (like Fly did yesterday) make into a big deal. That I can't help either.

But pay attention. The last 2 weeks after the Jr/Russians meeting were of major importance, and everybody fell for the gossip instead. Damn right it's frustrating.
No, you are doing exactly what Puppy Friday was doing: posting a video with minimal description or context of some obscure but true fact, and then insinuating that it is proof of something nefarious and covert, and what exactly that is is left as a exercise for the reader. It is terrible.
07-31-2017 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Drudge *is* an early 90's site. He's never updated the design. That's the OG alt-right.
Gotta stick with a winner.
07-31-2017 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
No, you are doing exactly what Puppy Friday was doing: posting a video with minimal description or context of some obscure but true fact, and then insinuating that it is proof of something nefarious and covert, and what exactly that is is left as a exercise for the reader. It is terrible.
You watched the hearing?
07-31-2017 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
You watched the hearing?
I don't think I have ever watched a utoobz where the only context given to it was "watch this," and I am not about to start.
07-31-2017 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
I didn't study his tweets, because good grammar and restrained posting are imo prerequisites for a person to be a credible expert. But I did click one thread where he argues with a reasonable sounding guy and comes across pretty tinfoil-y.

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Originally Posted by Our House
The bold may be a little stringent and could cause you to miss out on something valuable. Personally, I take those things into consideration, but not as a prerequisite. There are computer programmers and math geniuses I know IRL (NJ) who DGAF when they tweet or IM. It's definitely below average, but not enough to rule out completely.

What's HOP stand for in that tweet? Typo of IHOP?
Cheese's rule is a good one, imo. The risk that you dismiss a unique perspective from credible expert due to horrible posting is very small compared to the chances you found another loon, especially if you are casting a wide enough net that you are reading such posters on the regular. If the person with bad grammar is indeed an expert, it is likely another expert who can actually write is saying the same thing.
07-31-2017 , 12:12 PM
Need rjoe's youtube cat up in here
07-31-2017 , 12:20 PM
Republicans sourced their amendment to investigate Hillary through the /the_donald subreddit
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The insider references to subpoenas, the legislative process, and working in Congress (as well as allusions to taking down Crooked H) prompted some additional digging. The three Reddit sleuths then saw that Devinm666 had actively solicited other r/The_Donald members for assistance with the upcoming amendment. Representative Gaetz has confirmed that that Devinm666 is in fact legislative aide Devin Murphy.

"Yes, Devin is a staffer in our office," Gaetz wrote in an email to WIRED. "It is the responsibility of our staff to gather as much information as possible when researching a subject and provide that information for consideration. We pride ourselves on seeking as much citizen input as possible.”
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In addition to talking about his job on the Hill, Devinm666 also shared some controversial views with the members of r/The_Donald. About seven months ago (prior to taking his current job), he referred to Barack Obama as "Barry o'Islama":

In other posts, he refers to Obama as a "Kenyan Muslim," and refugees in Germany as "raping savages." And just about a month ago, he celebrated the fact that "recess appointments are the fast track, without Cuck Schumer holding up every judge."
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As far as Devinm666's call for research assistance on July 25 goes, he claims to have been specifically tasked with coming up "with a list of Clinton/Obama/election scandals" in "the next few hours." He noted several times that he was in a time crunch. The resulting suggestions made by r/The_Donald are mirrored in roughly two-thirds of the total finished amendment.
On one hand I guess it should be appalling. On the other, it seems like the same reaching out to the most extreme base and crafting legislation that's probably going to fail, just to rile them up. See also abortion, gun, and Muslim legislation.

https://www.wired.com/story/republic...ld-resolution/
07-31-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
our foreign policy should be primarily focusing on two nations at the moment: China and North Korea.
What can we get from China? With Trump running the country, it's nearly impossible. He won't offer anything other than an insulting tweet or two after every test launch, used up a bunch of their influence on personal nonsense last meeting with Xi at Mar-a-Lago, and who knows if there are any other personal factors (like Scaramucci's $85 million) and if they're compromising the situation.

This is a huge problem with Trump. The more we learn about his shady, hidden (and later exposed by the media, or himself) activities, the less we can rule out shenanigans from non-exposed activities that appear similarly shady.
07-31-2017 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
This is the first time RASMUSSEN has tracked him at sub 40%, big news imo.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 39% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Sixty-one percent (61%) disapprove.

The latest figures for Trump include 26% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 49% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -23. (see trends).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ez_track_jul31

drudge has it highlighted red on his page as he slowly turns against the clown show
looool, came here to post the same thing. 22 points underwater on Ras. Great job, Donny.
07-31-2017 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
Yea the problem with assuming that Trump is too dumb to bring down democracy is the implication that guys like Erdogan, Orban, or Duterte are actually smart.
Ding ding ding.

I mean, I'm stealing this from Chapo, but the idea that Vladimir Putin, SuperSpy, has a grand scheme to steal the White House and his chosen tools are

Donald Trump, a senile old racist
DJT Jr., a man so stupid he literally posted incredibly damaging and possibly incriminated emails on Twitter
Mike Flynn, the Pizzagate General whose primary skill is getting fired

makes Putin seem like a fish who got hit by the deck than an actual mastermind.
07-31-2017 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Republicans sourced their amendment to investigate Hillary through the /the_donald subreddit





On one hand I guess it should be appalling. On the other, it seems like the same reaching out to the most extreme base and crafting legislation that's probably going to fail, just to rile them up. See also abortion, gun, and Muslim legislation.

https://www.wired.com/story/republic...ld-resolution/
Baby Gaetz, making Florida proud.
07-31-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Republicans sourced their amendment to investigate Hillary through the /the_donald subreddit





On one hand I guess it should be appalling. On the other, it seems like the same reaching out to the most extreme base and crafting legislation that's probably going to fail, just to rile them up. See also abortion, gun, and Muslim legislation.

https://www.wired.com/story/republic...ld-resolution/
Well, the amendment didn't touch on Crooked Hillary's Seth Rich murder capers and I'm pretty sure there aren't any pictures of Pepe in it, so give these guys credit for filtering out all of the white noise from /the_donald and keeping it strictly business, James Comey's shocking refusal to indict the Clinton Foundation for treason.
07-31-2017 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
This is the first time RASMUSSEN has tracked him at sub 40%, big news imo.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 39% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Sixty-one percent (61%) disapprove.

The latest figures for Trump include 26% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 49% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -23. (see trends).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ez_track_jul31

drudge has it highlighted red on his page as he slowly turns against the clown show
I also think this is the first time Trump ahs been at 61 percent disapprove in ANY major tracking poll. His base is slowly withering.
07-31-2017 , 12:47 PM
in before "hey guise, 39% isnt even that bad" - orange turd
07-31-2017 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
I don't think I have ever watched a utoobz where the only context given to it was "watch this," and I am not about to start.
You guys see what I'm having to put up with today? This can't be a real post outside of the Twilight Zone.

An uncut Congressional hearing is not "a utoobz" by any stretch.

3-4 mid-sized posts of context is not "watch this" by any stretch.

Why are you trying to make me sound like a conspiracy theorist without needing me to actually be one? This is exactly how pile-ons gain momentum.
07-31-2017 , 01:00 PM
Dude you're not some MAGA chode, don't post like one. Have a thesis.
07-31-2017 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Kelly is a god damned war criminal who subverted (not cool supposedly for a general) Obama's efforts to close a big torture facility.
Really? That's pretty bad news if Trump ever decides "military takeover" is the best or only way out.

      
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