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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

07-30-2017 , 06:40 PM
he looks smart compared to the company he keeps. he's like moe howard
07-30-2017 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
he looks smart compared to the company he keeps. he's like moe howard
It's real easy to underestimate the amount Trump brings everyone around him down. How smart someone is in the Trump Administration is hardly realized.
07-30-2017 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshfan
cumon he's not dumber than trump.
We've barely seen him speak. What do we have to base any evaluation of his intellect on?
07-30-2017 , 07:03 PM
I base it on Adam Schiffs comment.
07-30-2017 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
We've barely seen him speak. What do we have to base any evaluation of his intellect on?
Given the company he keeps, I give him some (possibly undeserved) automatic credit for keeping his mouth shut.
07-30-2017 , 07:08 PM
He's probably somewhere around the Trump sons in terms of intelligence.
07-30-2017 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Wha??

He's like the only person in this whole mess smart enough to STFU about everything except "policy" and cover his tracks with plausible deniability in many instances the others do not.
Uh, "not admitting to crimes on Twitter" is a very low bar.

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Manafort is smart too. And Sessions in a different way. Flynn, not so much. Don Jr, LMAO.

Trump's whole cabinet is full of rich white oligarchs who are book idiots and (NYC) street wise.
I cannot stress how harmful this sort of thinking is. No. They are stupid leeches, the lot of them.
07-30-2017 , 07:13 PM
Stop. Assuming. The. Wealthy. Are. Smart.
07-30-2017 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Yeah it's a vanishingly small chance that PFY2 is a Russian troll, and it's even pretty unlikely that poconodor is one.
what about that dude from awhile ago? second helpings I think was his name.
07-30-2017 , 07:31 PM
I thought it was kind of common knowledge that Kushner isn't the brightest bulb. I've heard his contemporaries at Harvard describe him as easily the dumbest guy on campus, and then there is

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...e-into-harvard
07-30-2017 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Wha??

He's like the only person in this whole mess smart enough to STFU about everything except "policy" and cover his tracks with plausible deniability in many instances the others do not.
No...he's so dumb even Trump handlers say "yeah.... this guy shouldn't speak in public" I guess you could call him brilliant for correctly believing other people when they tell him he's really, really dumb? But thats grading on the Trumpiest curve of all time.
07-30-2017 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Uh, "not admitting to crimes on Twitter" is a very low bar.
You're doing the Russia thing. Pick out something ridiculous, ignore the rest, and make your ridiculous thing out to be the norm for an argument.

Trump does Twitter. But there are lots of others who do interviews on TV and radio, make official statements, give Congressional testimony, etc etc. Jared is the only one smart enough to handle it as properly (with well-constructed lawyer statements) as possible given the enormity of the crimes committed.

And Sessions isn't smart? He's an ******* but he's still smart. Trump brings everyone into his web and stupifies them.

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Stop. Assuming. The. Wealthy. Are. Smart.
But before I get generalized on again though:

1) There are varying levels of "smarts" throughout an administration led by a complete idiot.

2) Street Smart (common sense) is different from Book Smart (well versed in knowledge). I'm saying it, but it isn't sinking in. "Harvard" is not a measure of both.
07-30-2017 , 07:43 PM
Something else about Trump's cabinet that is often overlooked (regardless of their intellect):

It's a matter of perspective.

They are the wrong people in the wrong positions for running America's plans.

They are the right people in the right positions for running Trump's scams.
07-30-2017 , 07:55 PM
Russia is inciting Trump supporters to violence against Malcolm Nance and Joy Ann Reid, two of the most insightful (and "color"ful) people on MSNBC.

https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/sta...94346403168256
07-30-2017 , 07:59 PM
Dude, no, there's no ****ing evil geniuses here. This **** is how conspiritarding happens, this inane mythology of powerful people doing grand schemes. There's nothing behind the curtains here. I mean, sure, there's whatever they are hiding from Mueller, but that's probably just money laundering or something, and a dog knows to hide when it's master finds out it has done something wrong.
07-30-2017 , 08:03 PM
Trump makes the people around him look stupid by requiring them to defend the indefensible and due to his power, forces his administration to take actions that are completely moronic.

Not everybody entered the cabinet as a moron. A bunch did but not everyone. Guys like Sessions, Priebus, and Spicer were once smooth political operators. Not necessarily intelligent but intelligent enough to maneuver in political environments, minimizing damage dealt while maximizing gains. But now these people were/are made out to be fools by having to cover up for a incompetent, raging narcissist.

I think a better thing to say would be "Stop assuming that net worth has a positive correlation with overall intelligence."
07-30-2017 , 08:04 PM
Lol.....the brilliant Jared Kushner, a street smart but poorly "versed in knowledge" son of a billionaire!
07-30-2017 , 08:09 PM
jared kushner's parents paid $30k/yr for his elementary school so you know he's smart
07-30-2017 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
jared kushner's parents paid $30k/yr for his elementary school so you know he's smart
07-30-2017 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Dude, no, there's no ****ing evil geniuses here. This **** is how conspiritarding happens, this inane mythology of powerful people doing grand schemes. There's nothing behind the curtains here. I mean, sure, there's whatever they are hiding from Mueller, but that's probably just money laundering or something, and a dog knows to hide when it's master finds out it has done something wrong.
You know how you can tell your arguments are a failure? Because you keep taking what I say and making it an extremity. LOL evil geniuses. I don't remember coming close to claiming that. (though there's quite a large amount of criminality going on)
07-30-2017 , 08:26 PM
Fly, is Putin smart? Book or street?
07-30-2017 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
how is Jared brilliant? why the **** would you even join this administration in the first place. (i understand that Mueller may provide me with an answer in the future).
Are you serious? If you're greedy and have no scruples or intelligence, this is an extremely appealing thing. The amount of access to powerful interests is unrivaled, so there is a ton of money to be made.
07-30-2017 , 08:33 PM
Who said Jared chose to join the campaign, and didn't get ensnared in the Trump web a long time ago? Running up billions in debt usually takes a while.
07-30-2017 , 08:36 PM
Our House i'm worried about ya bro you're sounding a little manic lately. the kush is the person most likely to avoid criminal punishment at the end of this, he's a white guy with immense family wealth even if he has to take the hit and sell that satanic illuminati building. trump might turn out to be so intertwined in russian mob stuff the justice department might have to seize all his buildings at once. i don't think anyone is laundering money through jared's family's ****ty new jersey condos. jared seems like a huge pussy he was probably muscled into criminality by big personalities in the trump org, and i doubt it would take much leaning on him to get him to flip, he might be wearing a wire right now
07-30-2017 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
Are you serious? If you're greedy and have no scruples or intelligence, this is an extremely appealing thing. The amount of access to powerful interests is unrivaled, so there is a ton of money to be made.
dead serious. he didn't have the foresight to realize how much danger he very well could be in in the future by aligning himself so closely w/ his clown of a man father-in-law.

      
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