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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

07-20-2017 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
The 2018 election is 16 months away. There is no way, even if every other check and balance fails, that Trump fires Mueller, doesn't get impeached, and gop retains majority. It is more likely it ceases to be a viable party.

In the meantime, nothing moves forward, nothing gets done, and Trump fails. If this is incorrect, then democracy is a lie, but your assumptions are like arguing people somehow convinced themselves Iraq was a great success. It wasn't, people ultimately noticed. Bush had great support, everything went bad, support was gone. It's called democracy.

Lots of people don't follow politics and dont learn so fast. They thought Trump had an upside and was just clowin. He didnt and he wasn't.

Trump's not going to lose in a coup or from street protests, his support will continue to evaporate and he or his protectors will lose a big election. If gop continues to protect him when he is at 30% it will make the 1976 election look quaint.
I read an analysis somewhere (maybe Politico) to the effect that Republicans from red states that support Trump are looking very carefully at polling data. These on-the-fence Republicans are, according to the article, assessing the public mood in their states on a daily basis. These pols are stuck between a rock and a hard place. As long as Trump's numbers (in their state) are above a certain threshold, it would be political suicide to come out publicly against Trump. On the other hand, if Trump's favorability drops below that threshold, they'll probably lose [to a Democratic challenger] in the 2018 mid term election. The question boils down to: What is that threshold?

I can't recall the precise number. (I think it was somewhere in the mid 30 percent range.) If Trump's numbers fall into that range, his "base" will have abandoned him - or the [Republican] pol fears that he/she will lose to a Democrat if he/she continues to support Trump. All I know is that in my (deep red) state, (i.e. Alabama), the majority - by an approximate 2-1 margin - thinks "The Donald" can do no wrong. I was talking yesterday to a local businessman who is firmly in Trump's corner. The "Russia stuff" doesn't bother him a bit.

Last edited by Former DJ; 07-20-2017 at 02:25 PM.
07-20-2017 , 02:21 PM
Oh wow. A really bad lie by Trump, or did he get played hard by Japan?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/888100214439108610
07-20-2017 , 02:38 PM
Really hope he was talking **** about her in front of her
07-20-2017 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
The Saturday Night Massacre did not directly bring Nixon down, he remained in office for a year. With Democrats in control of Congress.

Today is the 6 month anniversary of Trump's inauguration. Only 87% of his term left to complete!
This is true. It's been said but there was no bi-partisan stomach for the I-word until after the tapes were released. But for that Nixon would have likely finished out his term with 25% or so approval ratings.
07-20-2017 , 02:43 PM
Jeez man. Is he possibly this bad at healthcare, or just this bad at words?

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/887879758905823232
07-20-2017 , 02:48 PM
I'll be glad when my daughter turns 21 so her $109/month current policy only costs $12/year
07-20-2017 , 02:49 PM
And yeah I'd be shocked if Trump has ever even seen a medical bill in his lifetime
07-20-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Since we have an AG who plays too much by the rules, maybe he can start going after criminals like this:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/s...78315457826816
Right, corporation like Exxon Mobil should just abandone the deal that will secure major sourcing of crude oil for decades to come because of Dems being mad.
07-20-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
And yeah I'd be shocked if Trump has ever even seen a medical bill in his lifetime
Well he is the healthiest individual to ever be president so he might not have a lot of experience with the health insurance
07-20-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Oh wow. A really bad lie by Trump, or did he get played hard by Japan?

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/888100214439108610
Most likely by far she pretended not to speak english so she didn't have to talk to him lmao.

He's not lying, he's just too dumb to have known better.
07-20-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
And yeah I'd be shocked if Trump has ever even seen a medical bill in his lifetime
Terrible source on this so I apologize in advance but Trump at least knows how much his infant nephew's insurance was and wasn't down to pay it.
07-20-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bombonca
Right, corporation like Exxon Mobil should just abandone the deal that will secure major sourcing of crude oil for decades to come because of Dems being mad.
federal sanctions
07-20-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bombonca
Right, corporation like Exxon Mobil should just abandone the deal that will secure major sourcing of crude oil for decades to come because of Dems being mad.
i dont think you understand the point of sanctions

2nd place pony
07-20-2017 , 03:19 PM
If you work hard (and live) until 70 you can get great insurance.
07-20-2017 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
i dont think you understand the point of sanctions

2nd place pony

Yup, leave it to Chinese.
07-20-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bombonca
Right, corporation like Exxon Mobil should just abandone the deal that will secure major sourcing of crude oil for decades to come because of Dems being mad.
You could at least bother to click the link and see the sanctions Exxon violated were the ones from 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea, so it wasn't just "Dems being mad".
07-20-2017 , 03:32 PM
07-20-2017 , 04:18 PM
McCain can pretty much say what he likes now surely?
Could get interesting.
07-20-2017 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by epcfast
McCain can pretty much say what he likes now surely?
Could get interesting.
he's been saying there are more shoes to drop etc, well god just called the clock on him so if he's got a move it's coming soon. he said he'll be back in the senate, if he wanted to die towing the republican line he could retire now and have the republican governor of az appoint a stooge.
07-20-2017 , 04:32 PM
Why come back to the senate?

If my wife and I were worth nine figures and I got a diagnosis like that, I sure as **** wouldn't be working.
07-20-2017 , 04:34 PM
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Could get interesting.
mccain's been a large disappointment. got elected to a 6 year term as an 80 year old, 0 chance he was ever gonna fight another election so he's had carte blanche to say whatever for a while

if he was gonna not be a standard republican slappy wrt drumpfocalypse it woulda happened already
07-20-2017 , 04:40 PM
Trumps 12/year health insurance line reminded me of something Lucille Bluth would say.

07-20-2017 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bombonca
Yup, leave it to Chinese.
07-20-2017 , 05:20 PM
What do you think your BB/100 would be if you could play trump heads up for 100,000 hands?
07-20-2017 , 05:22 PM
100

      
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