It's still a good message imo because it defuses and tamps down the fear level back home. The message it sends to ISIS is irrelevant. They don't care. And everyone else already hates them.

Then go after the RICs individually. Which is probably what will start happening in the near future. Not just in the court of public opinion either. That helps, but their level of shame has to be incredibly high before they begin to buckle. Slimebags are like that. Targeting Flynn and Manafort is a start, but if the investigations were digging into Ryan, Nunes, etc. and they were getting hit with subpoenas and **** they couldn't ignore, it would be a whole new ballgame.

Speaking of public opinion, I think the MSM is absolutely doing the right thing by not letting their foot off the gas pedal. This isn't about not liking Trump, even though he's so unlikeable. This isn't about the millions of things he's doing wrong or even the impeachable offenses, although they have become a means to an end...

Just the fact alone that Russia is still attacking us (confirmed by all the IC department heads) and nobody on Trump's side cares to do anything about it - or worse, actively encouraging it - is crisis #1 in the United States and cannot continue to be ignored. Hence the abundance of leaks and other information. How much can people take? Seriously.

The funny part in all of this is how, no matter how much distrust is cast onto the media and IC by the Trump admin, these same exact people do trust the same exact sources of info in other cases that don't show Trump negatively.

It's no different than religious folk who claim to be at odds with science, and then continue to use science religiously in all other walks of life. It's a dumb thought process that is costing us everything we stand for in the US.

"I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her."
"[Ivanka] has the best body."
"[Ivanka's] really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father "

Now about his infant daughter: "We don't know whether she's got this [motions around his chest] yet, but time will tell."

Then when talking about a 10 year old pagent winner: "I'll be dating her in ten years."

You gotta be a true zealot to just ignore these kind of comments.

I'm sure ISIS supporters will just laugh at Trump's "losers" comment, but given the almost infinite awful possible responses he could have come out with, I think we should probably be grateful it's as reasonable as that.

Yep. It's gonna be like when the Patriot Act was crammed down our throats. "DON'T YOU SEE, WE ARE DOING THIS TO PROTECT YOU!"

There will be some BS Gestapo tactics law passed under the guise of patriotism. They'll even give it a catchy name. I predict it will be called "Making America Great Again Act."

So trump and Mulvaney don't know 2+2=4

Word is that's how someone would refer to children at the Nambla meetings at the local pizza place

To play a little devils advocate... America is clearly much safer than Europe and it's not really close. Not a fan of the Patriot Act but foreign terrorists especially those beyond lone wolf copy cats and admirers have a nearly impossible task thesedays.

That's a good point.

I would want us to see all the innocent victims though. That means the people in the hospital accidentally bombed in Iraq, the Kurds continually attacked in eastern Turkey, and the Yemeni on the precipice of a massive human catastrophe.

America is safe for way different reasons beyond the Patriot act

Like geography for example.

Even Fox News is leaking now. Enough is enough!

Fox News staffers 'disgusted' at network's promotion of Seth Rich conspiracy theory

I know you mean from Islamic attacks, but it should still be pointed out that America is much less safe than most of Europe.

And among the differences between America and Europe in regards to Islamic attacks the patriot act is not really significant. Mostly the demographics and assimilation of Muslim immigrants is different, but what do you think European police and intelligence organizations are doing that's so much different?

Lol, those are some real crocodile tears. Because all of the other sleazy **** that Fox does as the propaganda arm of the Republican part is totally focused on real journalism.

The USA murder rate is about 4 times that of the UK (guns obv).

Well part of that is just geography. ISIS can't walk to the US.

But they could still wreak havoc in this country tomorrow if they wanted to. Just follow the DC sniper blue-print. Start randomly shooting people at soccer games and stuff in say So. Cal where everyone is outside all the time. You could bring the whole are to it's knees and have 30 million people living in constant fear.

Or set forest fires all throughout the west. Takes a match and some gasoline.

I think they just have other agendas than us right now.

Then you'd have about 10,000 innocent Syrian kids to every one western kid.

Now is not the time to talk about guns. How dare you try to politicize this tragedy. Where are my pearls? I need something to clutch as I faint.

Clearly geography plays a factor and obviously I meant from foreign terrorists. No ? gun violence is en epidemic in America overall.

It's not that they have other agendas because America is the crown jewel when it comes to publicity on attacks like this, it's that they actually are losing the war and resources to attack the West are becoming scarce if not impossible.

I really hope they don't figure out the wildfire thing. Wouldn't even need to leave notes, it would be obvious from the sudden uptick in fires near homes.

Do you honestly believe that ISIS-who command the resources of a nation-state and operate in multiple different countries, can't send a single guy to the US?

It doesn't take any resources other than airfare and maybe a couple of hundred dollars for fertilizer.

ISIS don't attack the US for one reason only: you provide them with thousands of new recruits continuously.

Do you honestly believe it's as simple as sending a guy on a plane? Lmao please.

Their goal seems first and foremost to create recruiting material. Forest fires or local sniper wreaks havoc doesn't have nearly the panache of a big thing blowing up.

If they literally just wanted to cause fear or do economic damage we'd be ****ed. Like if we were in some kind of super hot proxy war with the Russians - I could see their agents in the US running around causing that kind of havoc.