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Originally Posted by Victor
but the right would try to equate blm with isis and limit the freedoms of blm and others that they view as subversive or as their own personal enemies regardless.
Yes. The difference will be the precedent to legally act on it.
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like, if we sit around and actively promote allowing nazis to march and supremacists to hold rallies and speeches, that is not gonna do a single thing to hurt the arguments, ideas, and actions of ppl like david clark in that twitter.
Saying that speech is protected by the first amendment is not sitting around actively promoting their right to march. That right exists and predates us. The discussion is about the value vs consequences of curbing that right.
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and actually, promoting or even allowing those ideas a platform and the opportunity to propagate will do a ton to also promote the ideas that david clarke is espousing in that twitter, and it will make it much more likely that such ideas are acted on and the rights and humanity of groups that are deemed enemies of the nazis and the administration is drastically lessened.
I just don't agree that this is true on its face. This **** exists and these people are not going to be switched off by being silenced in public.
Question for the hate speech ban advocates. Take out the slippery slope. What does this law even look like and how does it get passed in the current climate. What's the level of effort? How is it worded so that an unprecedented change to the first amendment like this produces a result where Nazi sympathizers or self proclaimed supremacy groups are now banned from assembly? Like, what if they just are more careful about dog whistles? Who determines the line? As someone else mentioned, what's the punishment? How much energy goes into arguing with these mouth breathers, who not the movers and shakers of the movement anyway, battling them in courts, giving them news coverage of those battles...
Do their rallies really give them that much traction anyway? This seems like a massive misuse of effort as an idea. Even discussing it is reducing focus on things that will actually matter more, and that's before you factor the potential (assured) unintended consequences.