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Old 01-09-2019, 09:30 AM   #2076
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People are still way overvaluing Mueller it seems. Your best case is Junior gets indicted and pardoned.

The chances of Trump being indicted are near zero and nothing from the investigation will move the needle in 2020, which is all that really matters.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:39 AM   #2077
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He's plainly kind of a weirdo though, not the guy you want to be any kind of voice for the movement. But if he's on board, sure, why not.
Having a cynical, no position, weathervane like daou twist in DSA's direction is a promising sign. I think the Opportunist Window could be a better predictor of political winds than the Overton Window.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:40 AM   #2078
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People are still way overvaluing Mueller it seems. Your best case is Junior gets indicted and pardoned.

The chances of Trump being indicted are near zero and nothing from the investigation will move the needle in 2020, which is all that really matters.
good post. it's obvious everyone involved is guilty as sin of pretty much everything they're accused of, and it hasn't mattered at all. the hogs will never turn on trump, and therefore nor will elected republicans. #resistance dems are gonna spend all of 2020 whining 'but the independent investigation said he was guilty' and being confused when it doesn't work, because they're stupid babies who still believe in the kayfabe where america is good and fair and just (lol)
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:56 AM   #2079
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good post. it's obvious everyone involved is guilty as sin of pretty much everything they're accused of, and it hasn't mattered at all. the hogs will never turn on trump, and therefore nor will elected republicans. #resistance dems are gonna spend all of 2020 whining 'but the independent investigation said he was guilty' and being confused when it doesn't work, because they're stupid babies who still believe in the kayfabe where america is good and fair and just (lol)


ďHasnít mattered at allĒ


Flynn. Gonna go to jail
Manafort. Jail
Cohen. Jail


The investigation isnít even over. When it is, itís going to show rampant crime for decades

This post should age well
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:02 AM   #2080
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People are still way overvaluing Mueller it seems. Your best case is Junior gets indicted and pardoned.

The chances of Trump being indicted are near zero and nothing from the investigation will move the needle in 2020, which is all that really matters.
At this point, Iím not sure what purpose opinions such as this serve? Uh, no kidding, there is virtually no chance that Trump will spend time in prison for any crimes he has committed. That doesnít mean there is still not huge benefit in behaving as if the rule of law holds sway, or should hold sway and apply to the powerful. We should not give up behaving as if truth matters, either, even though the Republican Party and media establishment a wholly committed to creating their own reality. Mullerís report matters and we should treat it seriously and expect other people to treat it seriously.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:06 AM   #2081
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:18 AM   #2082
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:27 AM   #2083
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Itís not like he met the spy in a dark alley guys, heís known this spy for a long time so this is all above board. This is some funny ass ****.



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Old 01-09-2019, 10:31 AM   #2084
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I guess once Barr gets confirmed and doesnít recuse himself, he will take over Mueller investigation thus Rosenstein wonít be doing that either way.

Itís just so bad that Trump was able to get rid of Sessions solely because he wanted his own AG to control the Mueller investigation and now he is getting away with getting his own guy in there to control the Mueller investigation.

I think they gambled correctly that now that the House is controlled by dems, people wouldnít be as outraged at a slow motion Mueller squashing

But we need the Mueller investigation to continue unimpeded.
Rosenstein has said before (canít find it quickly) that he wouldnít leave until it was to a point that he felt it was beyond interference. He has insisted he is leaving freely and is not being forced out. This may mean that the investigation is entering a new phase
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:36 AM   #2085
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:37 AM   #2086
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Forrest Gump Management?
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:39 AM   #2087
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He spelled it that way twice.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:40 AM   #2088
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Shouldn’t he just send a million rakes?
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:45 AM   #2089
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:46 AM   #2090
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“Guys, Trump may have laundered money for various international scumbags, but he’s been doing that since the 1980s. I see no evidence of an issue here, this is a longstanding business practice of the President.”
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:48 AM   #2091
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Stupid is as stupid does.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:50 AM   #2092
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The POG politics thread is interesting there are actually Trump supporters there
Yeah! And as you've already discovered it's a very welcoming place


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This thread is restricted to members of the POG community.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:50 AM   #2093
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Can't spell forest, could identify Greenland though...
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:50 AM   #2094
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:53 AM   #2095
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At this point, Iím not sure what purpose opinions such as this serve? Uh, no kidding, there is virtually no chance that Trump will spend time in prison for any crimes he has committed. That doesnít mean there is still not huge benefit in behaving as if the rule of law holds sway, or should hold sway and apply to the powerful. We should not give up behaving as if truth matters, either, even though the Republican Party and media establishment a wholly committed to creating their own reality. Mullerís report matters and we should treat it seriously and expect other people to treat it seriously.
Those are a lot of nice words about the way things should be, but unfortunately they have little do with reality.

This is like the "when they go low, we go high" stuff.

All that matters at this point is getting as many Democrats who aren't corporate stooges into power and then ramming through Medicare for all, increase taxes, fix civil rights, expand SCOTUS, etc. Future proofing things as much as possible, by any means necessary. Republicans do not give a ****, so we shouldn't either if we don't want to see non-rich, straight, Christian, white males suffer for eternity.
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:00 AM   #2096
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Yeah! And as you've already discovered it's a very welcoming place
It's a reasonable rule. It was way worse in there before that policy was implemented.

Just play some games there first and you'll be fine.
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:07 AM   #2097
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Those are a lot of nice words about the way things should be, but unfortunately they have little do with reality.

This is like the "when they go low, we go high" stuff.

All that matters at this point is getting as many Democrats who aren't corporate stooges into power and then ramming through Medicare for all, increase taxes, fix civil rights, expand SCOTUS, etc. Future proofing things as much as possible, by any means necessary. Republicans do not give a ****, so we shouldn't either if we don't want to see non-rich, straight, Christian, white males suffer for eternity.
Even for a tough, hard-headed realist like yourself, isn't a criminal investigation into the president kind of beneficial for purposes of getting members of the other party elected? Or is the only required electoral strategy here just to demand the enactment of your preferred policies with great conviction and intensity? Kind of disappointing that no one ever thought of that before.
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:11 AM   #2098
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Yeah! And as you've already discovered it's a very welcoming place
Yeah I left after that 😂
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:14 AM   #2099
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:19 AM   #2100
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Schumer is much worse than Pelosi he is an idiot she is pretty smart
He could beat Sklansky in a SAT or LSAT challenge. (He got a perfect SAT)
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