Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

11-19-2017 , 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by simplicitus
Have seen about half of Hamilton on youtube, will probably see it when it comes to So. Cal.

The video of the original performance at the White House when only the first song had been written is impressive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8_ARd4oKiI Lin-Manuel had been invited to the performance night due to the relative success of In the Heights.
Ya, that performance was pretty damn good. It's playing the San Diego Civic theatre pretty soon if I remember correctly.
11-19-2017 , 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by simplicitus
Have seen about half of Hamilton on youtube, will probably see it when it comes to So. Cal.

The video of the original performance at the White House when only the first song had been written is impressive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8_ARd4oKiI Lin-Manuel had been invited to the performance night due to the relative success of In the Heights.
Haven't seen Hamilton, have watched that White House video many times.

I love how Michael Schur (Fire Joe Morgan, creator of Parks & Rec, Good Place, Brooklyn Nine-Nine) described how completely insane the notion of a Hamilton play is:

Quote:
It seems like a joke, Hamilton – a joke in a TV show where one of the characters is a struggling New York actor, and is always dragging his friends to his terrible plays. Like Joey in Friends. There’s an episode of Friends where Joey is in a terrible musical called like Freud!, about Sigmund Freud, and you get to see some of it, and it’s predictably terrible. Freud! the musical is arguably a better idea than Hamilton the musical.

I’m far from the first person to say this – I’m probably somewhere around the millionth person to write about Hamilton, and the maybe 500,000th to make this particular point, but it needs to be said – a hip-hop Broadway musical about the founding fathers is an astoundingly terrible idea. Lin-Manuel Miranda should never have written it. As soon as he started to write it, he should’ve said to himself, “What the **** am I doing?!” and stopped. And after he got halfway through, he should’ve junked it, gotten really drunk, and moved on with his life, and made his wife and friends swear to never mention the weird six months where he was trying to write a hip-hop musical about Alexander Hamilton. I literally guarantee you that when Lin-Manuel Miranda first told his friends what he was writing, every one of them reacted with at best a frozen smile, and at worst a horrified recoiling. Some of them might have been outwardly encouraging – “sounds awesome bud! Go get ‘em!” But then later, alone, they would call each other and say What the **** is he doing?
I want to bold the best part, but it's all the best part.
11-19-2017 , 07:04 PM
I have a similar story about a "bad idea" project that wasn't so bad.

I was hanging out at a grad student retreat for my department with Rebecca Sloot in like 2000. She was the girlfriend of a friend, another grad student (she was also a grad student but in another department). The group was having a beer shindig and Rebecca and I were having a smoke on the patio of a cabin where we were staying. She said she was working on a book about a woman whose cancer cells became the subject of much biological research, Henrietta Lacks. I said something mildly encouraging, but thought, "Ya, that's not gonna do any business."

Well, it took her a long time to write and was released a decade later [nothing like being a nobody with a 10-year project hanging over your head], but it won a bunch of awards, was a NY Times #1 bestseller, was the most assigned book for incoming college students, and was made into a movie starring Oprah. https://www.amazon.com/Immortal-Life.../dp/1400052181

So I guess my "radar" regarding its potential success was a bit off.

(She married my friend, now a philosophy professor, and they had two kids but later divorced.)

Last edited by simplicitus; 11-19-2017 at 07:18 PM.
11-19-2017 , 07:11 PM
Adam Curtis got there first, so a little market research might have changed your perspective.
11-19-2017 , 07:36 PM
11-19-2017 , 08:03 PM
Hot take:

In the Heights > Hamilton
11-19-2017 , 08:11 PM
Trump on another Twitter meltdown.
11-19-2017 , 08:13 PM




11-19-2017 , 08:18 PM
Vibe on Twitter is something big is going to break tomorrow. Kush has been in the news a bunch lately. Indictments incoming?
11-19-2017 , 08:30 PM
If shoplifting is 5-10 years, what do you get for treason in China?
11-19-2017 , 08:42 PM
Lol GOP base showing their true nature in those tweets.

Donald Trump: These uppity ******s are so ungrateful. 200k likes, 60k retweets.
Donald Trump: Loser Jeff Flake is interfering with our tax cuts. 20k likes, 6k retweets.

Last edited by AllTheCheese; 11-19-2017 at 08:43 PM. Reason: Being Republican is about small govt imo.
11-19-2017 , 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Hot take:

In the Heights > Hamilton
Not scorching. I almost agree as far as the cast recording goes for listening pleasure. For theatre experience Hamilton wins.
11-19-2017 , 09:07 PM
"mike"
11-19-2017 , 09:11 PM
Flake and Collins are "No," they are down to their last vote. Close to zero chance McCane votes for this ****.
11-19-2017 , 09:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPantz
Vibe on Twitter is something big is going to break tomorrow. Kush has been in the news a bunch lately. Indictments incoming?
Interviews expected this week:

Quote:
There have been suggestions, however, that Mueller's team may want to talk with communications director Hope Hicks, senior adviser Jared Kushner and White House counsel Don McGahn and people on his staff. There have been reports that Mueller's investigators may already have spoken with policy adviser Stephen Miller.
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/19/56486...teele-its-real

Also, Huckabee-Sanders says investigation will wrap up after Thanksgiving.
11-19-2017 , 09:19 PM
"Given our huge deficits, why is it necessary to give a huge tax cut to the 1%, considering how much better they have been doing in this global economy over the last thirty years as we have seen the middle class dwindle?"
11-19-2017 , 09:20 PM
I want to ****ing vomit reading that your favourite president line.
11-19-2017 , 09:20 PM
eh, doesn't the tax vote need 60?
11-19-2017 , 09:23 PM
I like how Trump just casually assumes the mantle of some kind of world authority, "I should have left them in jail!" as if he's the sole decision maker in all things. I mean I KNOW he knows they were arrested in China because he mentions that.
11-19-2017 , 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
eh, doesn't the tax vote need 60?
No
11-19-2017 , 10:11 PM
Video of Flake taking to John Giles, Mayor of Mesa AZ. Politico called Mesa the most conservative city in the US a couple of years ago. I doubt that but whatever.

11-19-2017 , 10:18 PM
Special Counsel sends wide-ranging request for documents to Justice Department
Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team investigating whether President Donald Trump sought to obstruct a federal inquiry into connections between his presidential campaign and Russian operatives has now directed the Justice Department to turn over a broad array of documents, ABC News has learned.

In particular, Mueller's investigators are keen to obtain emails related to the firing of FBI Director James Comey and the earlier decision of Attorney General Jeff Sessions to recuse himself from the entire matter, according to a source who has not seen the specific request but was told about it.
11-19-2017 , 10:19 PM
11-19-2017 , 10:20 PM
Pretty sure the tax vote needs 60, especially the house version, but one can argue the Senate version needs 50. Not 100% on this, but both versions seem to be violating the Byrd Rule (no deficit increase beyond 10 years), but maybe changes to the Senate bill (kill individual mandate) make it eligible for reconciliation. Pretty sure reconciliation rules exist so you can't restructure everything with 50 votes and dotard for president, but a lot of things used to exist before McConnell started going ham.

I see Trump's tilt as based on the fact that "tax reform" ain't gonna pass.
11-19-2017 , 10:32 PM
Flake: "If we become the party of Roy Moore and Donald Trump, we are toast."

Also Flake: *Rubber stamps deplorable bloggers for federal judgeship in committee and confirmation*

      
m