You can't use a Grip Force beaver tail on a gen 2?

Really don't think it's interesting or implausible at all.

You can practice picking locks in your living room. You can find stuff online to teach you enough for a basic lock. They can know someone who picked locks before.

A criminal takes a huge risk going to the range. Ranges also take id's in many places makes criminals nervous. You can't practice in your backyard.

i will not be dissuaded!

He has a point.

I'm not a massive "collector" type either, (it's a tool IMO) but yea, I'm not cutting the barrel on an FAL.

yes, and it makes them work MUCH better. For competition shooting it is not a factory part so it changes your classifications in many cases.

i had the same opinion and then one of the best fal smiths in the country told me $135 to cut down my fal's barrel, adjust gas system, re-time flash hider, re-thread.

or, i could buy a new barrel ($230) and have it installed (even more money).

and i was like 'wow ya this is a collectible but i could really care less if i take a few hundred bucks off the value of the gun in the long term'

Cutting down the barrel:

PROS

decreased weight
improved handling
possible slight improvement in accuracy due to increased stiffness


CONS

brutal muzzle blast(would super suck to shoot without ear pro, especially inside)
increased muzzle flash(bye bye night vision)
decreased velocity(how far do you plan to shoot)
probable decreased resale value(dontcare.com)

That's all I can think of. I wouldn't do it just based on the increased muzzle blast if this is your HD gun.

That poor deformed GLOCK...

This. Dracos are super fun as well. And if you want to deal with the ATF tax stamp you can SBR it with minimal effort. I'd go fullsize Draco..I thought the mini version was an abomination..though they were more popular. The PAP M92 is another option.

Which M&P is tsao always gassing on about? there's apparently a ****load of them. Just the straight M&P? The M&P shield? The M&P9L (sweet ugly metal, batman!)?

If I were to get a glock, say the G19, should I prefer 3rd or 4th gen if I have an option? (assuming I can't find a used 3rd gen, or 2nd - which everyone seems to like)

I feel like i'd prefer the glock for the roughly half trigger pull, but maybe that's bad for a beginner?

As for customizability, I assume either gun will have some sort of grip you can purchase to make it more comfortable, since they're pretty popular?

I think we're sick of waiting and hearing crazy new noises outside our house every night and just hoping some maniac doesn't find his way to our porch... again. Time to bust out the credit card and just pay the thing off next month. And stop being so terrified of livin' in the ghetto.

LK honestly I haven't been paying much attention.

This is just for home defense right? If it were me I'd get the M&P 9mm full size.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y

IDK what the difference is with the "pro core" ones.

I like the one you linked because it doesn't have a thumb safety but capacity is strangely low on that model (IDK why)

If it's for carry I'd get the M&P 9mm compact or the Shield.

I have a G19 Gen 3. Many people prefer the Gen 3 over others because they dislike the grip texture of the later gens, and the earlier gens don't have a light rail. I'm not clear as to why people would prefer a Gen 2.

Acting on DBJ's advice I bought a Crossbreed Supertuck Deluxe holster for it and wear it at work comfortably under an untucked shirt.

It's my one and only handgun now and here's why. It's one of the most rugged, reliable handguns you can own. Google "Glock torture test" to see for yourself. Then Google up torture tests for other handguns. I've found no comparison. 9mm is a very popular, if not the most popular defensive handgun caliber in the world. 9mm ammo cheap compared to others, and with good ammo, is very capable in a defensive situation. The G19 is probably one of the most popular handguns in the nation. Hopefully this means that in some sort of SHTF scenario parts will be widely available, not that this is a big concern considering the Glock's ruggedness. The G19 is big enough to help manage recoil but small enough to carry concealed, and has 15+1 capacity.

There are grips you can buy. I've never tried any though. The issue of comfort has never come to mind when I shoot. I recommend getting some TruGlo or Trijicon tritium night sights when you can afford them though, and a weapon light. Lining up the 3 dots in the sight picture is much more intuitive than dealing with the U on the stock sights that Neblis is always mentioning.

I bought my G19 in a package deal. It came with some modifications and a Glock light, which does the job, but there's better out there. I like the night sights but the extended mag and slide releases aren't that great.

If you want a gun design influenced by lawyers, go ahead and get yourself a gun with a double digit trigger pull.

EDIT: I think the first M&P you linked is MA compliant with a 10lb. trigger. That had me confused and I thought all M&P's had that silly trigger until I saw another with a 6.5lb. trigger which is much more reasonable. Some of the others don't even list trigger pull.

I need another gun. I want something similar to an ar15, just a larger round. I am thinking a SCAR 17, but for $2700 I feel like I can find something else.

What are some of your favorites?

go with the SCAR or the REPR imo.

"for 2700 I feel like I can find something else" - like a gibson es 335??

or did you mean something better than a SCAR 17? SCARS are pretty great.

LWRC pred

If money was no object I'd go with the HK MR762. You're gonna drop about a grand more than a SCAR though.

I have an AR15 and if I get another rifle, I'll probably get a 6.8SPC upper and build out a second lower for it as I can afford it.

Gun errors in movies: Dark Knight Rises.

In the first scene, the CIA agent has a cocked pistol (a SIG, I think), then fires it outside the airplane. Then he brings another prisoner to the door and ***** the hammer. Wait a second, I thought, if he fired the gun, it should automatically **** the hammer. I rewind to the first gun shot. He ***** the hammer and pulls the trigger. The hammer goes down. Nothing else happens, except a sound effect boom. The slide doesn't go back. They didn't even add a CGI flash.

NeBlis, thoughts on the Springfield TRP?

I may have found a deal too sweet to resist.

I was saying I didn't want to have to spend $2700. Was really wanting to spend ~$1500.

Armalite AR-10:

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...ducts_id/11516

DPMS Panther lr-308:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...Capacity+16%22

:/

yeah these pretty much.

if you're trying to go for gas piston rifles you could also look at the M1A (Springfield) and the FAL in that price range.

I have the non-rail version and absolutely love it.

Well, ill be getting the one with the rail, NIB for ~$700, should I choose to purchase it after a demo session done with our SRT team trying out the guns through about 8 different courses of fire.