I thought there must be a reason that "sig" kept coming to my mind, but I knew that was just another manufacturer's name.

Dit-moi (tell me), when you fellas go to the range, how much does it usually end up running you for ammo? Do you bring your own? How much ammo for each gun do you keep on-hand in your own home?

Bring your own ammo.

Guys like NeBlis and I buy our ammo in bulk, typically in 1K cans.

If you're not desiring to go to that extreme, at a minimum swing by Wal-Mart and get 50-100 rounds, it'll be a good bit cheaper than buying ammo at the range.

My ammo strategy is that I buy 3K rounds at a time, and when I finish two cans I start deal shopping. If I find a really good deal I'll buy that too. I'd say 3k-5k is standard for me, although I've got about 8k rounds of 7.62 x 39 at home right now.

When I go to the range depending on my plans I could carry anywhere from 150 rds to 1k.

Regular shooters know buying range ammo is a sucker play. In nearly every range I've ever been in, range ammo has a higher markup than anything else in the store.

shortly after asking, I found a local site that has gun rentals, but requires you to be a member ($25), charges 9 for the daily pass, 5 for the gun, and then requires you to use range ammo.

they're only about 20 bucks more expensive on some of the guns i've been considering buying, which would put them equal to or less than shipping one and paying for the ffl processing or whatnot.

their range seems, from what you're telling me, not to be the best deal around

The whole "you gotta use range ammo in rental guns" is industry standard.

You just have to factor it into the cost of rental.

Sigma confirmed junk.

Get the Beretta 92, it will last FOREVER. Simple tear-down. Parts are easily replaced. One of my top 3 personally.

DBJ pretty much answered this and I typed up a good answer the other day but when I hit submit I was temp-baned for LOLing at trolls.

For pistol stuff I keep 3-5k of range ammo in the major calibers that I use often and I have a few random thousand of other stuff. I have 500 rounds of 9 & 45 hollow points 1k 00 buck and 1k slugs in 12 gauge. In Rifle I have 3k in 556 and in 7.62 and around 500 .308 hunting rounds and around 4k .22lr.

I just put together enough components for reloading 12k rounds of .45 and 5k 9mm.

I never buy less than 1k at a time except for carry/special purpose ammo. this is for cost more than some sort of stockpiling. For pistol range ammo you need to try and get the price between .19-.25 for 9mm and .25-.38 for .45. My reloads cost around .10-.12 per but thats not counting my time and the reloading gear.

ETA: this is a good deal for 9mm range ammo http://www.sgammo.com/product/aguila...ain-fmj-ammo-0

LK, I shot a gun today I want you to seek out and try.

It's called the SCCY PCX-2.

I paid $299.99 for mine, got a free holster and a "cleaning kit".

The cleaning kit was junk, but the holster was actually a very nice Bianchi that typically retails between $38-$45.

I got to demo it before I bought it, was very impressed.



It's a 9MM

yeah I've heard good stuff about these.

my FAL is arriving tuesday.

holy **** ammo is expensiver than the last time i checked.

when i was looking at this stuff over the summer i could have gotten brass 308 for .40 a round. now cheapest looks to be .60 a round and oh wait its in stock no where.

DON'T buy a used one. The Gen 1's had some "growing pains" so to speak.

The new Gen 2's are the balls.

the handgun above is a cpx-2 not pcx

Meh, got all the letters in there.

DEWD!!!!! I told you like 100 times that 308 is expensive. You should have been buying ammo long ago as deals came up. Now your shoulder is gonna hurt for big bux.

ETA: ~.60 per round http://www.sgammo.com/product/magtec...er-non-corrosi

I've checked a couple of different reviews. Maybe I need to look into more, but it seems like that gun can have some weird issues. Should a total gun noob be getting into gun that can have problems they'd have no clue how to deal with? (alert the guy running the range?)

Reading some of the reviews saying the magazine is a bitch to load reminds me of why I preferred a revolver at the range. I assume they don't make 9mm revolvers?

The second review thing says they got rid of the manual safety, and the first one confirms that. The first also says, "The gun is also equipped with a slide lock/release." Is that a safety of sorts, or..?

Half the reason I was thinking of moving away from a revolver was the lack of a safety, but if I'm gonna get a gun with no safety anyhow, should I reconsider getting a revolver?

Yeah, looking at the picture cleared that confusion up..

you should not get a revolver because they suck unless you're in the west in the 1800s

slide lock/release isn't a safety, it holds the slide back and releases it as needed.

i saw those

i know how to use gun-deals.com too ya kno

do you know anything about that ammo?

Revolvers have advantages.

no one cares copper

I think i look like i'd be quite at home in the 1800s imo

LK - i haven't been following along, i thought you wanted a gun for home defense.

good luck trying to reload your revolver when your hands are shaking in fear/adrenaline and you keep dropping rounds and the shaking only gets worse until eventually the intruder kills you

revolvers are also the only gun to date that hasn't felt like **** in my hands (lol sample size)

but, uh, yeah, I'm bulking up. Just broke 130 lbs after losing a bunch of weight because of meds. I'll be 135 by new years, I just know it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dW8p1bQ9So#t=2m28s

From my limited experience, revolvers tend to have heavy pull weights on the trigger when firing double-action(just pulling the trigger without cocking the hammer), which is how a user would likely shoot in a dire situation. Also, the relatively limited ammo capacity is a turn off to me.

Now that I've used it a bit more, I like the stock 5lb trigger on my Glock 19 and carry it comfortably in my Crossbreed Supertuck Deluxe. Have to leave my shirt untucked though, if I tuck it in the holster prints badly. I may just need some new pants with more room in the waistline to correct the problem.

i kinda feel like me finding the right gun is like an NRA-version of Cinderella, only Cinderella is the gun, I'm the shoe, and the prince is.. uh... urban sprawl?

pretty sure you should just get a smith & wesson M&P 9mm