for instance, the cops who turned their backs on de Blasio at the press conference when the mayor was in tears should be fired immediately for insubordination

Guy had previous felony gun convictions

Only two years (so, what, six months served?) for felony gun possession is a joke. Should be 10 years minimum. Possessing a gun illegally is not as bad as having a couple joints in some places, GTFO with that nonsense.

Yeah thats disgraceful and so is the cops turning their back on the mayor as if this is suddenly a war kind of thing. Really terrible all of it. First of all the assassinations have nothing to do with the merit of the other cases and the fact the guy was likely disturbed overall and suicidal makes it unconnected with any police criticism. No criticism forces someone to go kill random cops for revenge. This is a pathological drive of other origin. You either have it in you or not to produce such terrible thing.

The additional sad reality however now is that this will likely reinforce the toughness and trigger happy nature of the cops instead of leading to motivation to bring all sides closer to self reflection and acceptance of responsibilities and common loss. This is now where you need true leaders to rally all sides towards unity and peace and better transparency in police conduct. The police need to be brave and make the first step here instead of further polarization. Maybe the president more than ever needs to make very strong statements about what is going and unite the people. All these losers exploiting the situation are part of the problem. Every single person on each side that has died past 6 months needs to teach us something.

Are you even aware that you just did EXACTLY what bobman was criticizing, in direct reply to that criticism?

masque, if you think that any of us who are outraged at the NYPD's tactics and the handling of the eric garner/mike brown cases in particular are needing of "self reflection", then perhaps it's you who needs to do the reflecting.

So a handful of people chanting and a nondescript youtube video outweighs the thousands (millions?) of protesters and prominent activists on major network television who are not calling for violence and are instead advocating peaceful protest? OK. Nah, you're not racist. Not one bit.

and i'm gonna +1 whoever it was on the last page that asked why on earth anybody would read masque's posts in entirety anymore, his writing is horrible and the pseudo intellectualism dripping out of his posts is nauseating. he used to do the same thing in hsmtt over the most trivial of spots

I've seen people here in NYC blame DiBlasio, Sharpton, and Obama. Everyone but the criminal who pulled the trigger.

However I will say that rhetoric matters. For example there is an assinine narrative being played out in the media that there is some sort of epidemic of cops killing black men. I've even heard the term "open season", as if cops are driving around looking for black people to shoot.

The Garner and Brown cases were 2 cases in a country of over 300 million people and 800k police officers. There is no epidemic of cops killing black people. Cops help black people every day by arresting dangerous criminals in their neighborhoods. They were in Bed Stuy for that very reason.

The "black lives matter" motto is dumb and inflammatory because it assumes police don't already agree with this sentiment. Protest an individual case, fine. But when you portray the police as racists looking to kill black people, you are wrong and you are encouraging wackos like this shooter to take action.

It's been painfully obvious at every step of either case that police agree with that sentiment.

"I think it's wrong to exploit this tragedy for political gain, but let's be honest, it was the other side's fault."

At first he was like...

but then...

LOL is it about time for you to check out some books on the pervasive anti-white bias of our society from the library, revots?


Hey wow it's weird how individual bad acts shift from being a thing that just happens and shoudn't be protested or commented on in the first two paragraphs to being the collective responsibility of all protestors in the third paragraph.

Literally cops were wearing "Wilson" nametags and attending "we are Darren Wilson" shirts. Mother****ers were wearing "I can breathe" shirts two days ago! Weird how that **** doesn't count as inflammatory.

But revots(and the entire Fox News demo) is FURIOUS at DeBlasio and Obama for... whatever it is that they said.

Every significant figurehead for the protestors people, every leader of the black community, they've all come out and condemned the murder of these two cops. No instagram posts, no digging into their discipline history to see if they were #NoAngel, they've explicitly, unconditionally, and immediately condemned an unprovoked and unjustified taking of two human lives.

That's the appropriate response.

I haven't seen a single ****ing cop, of any position, condemn the Garner chokehold or the Rice shooting or the Crawford shooting or the Brown shooting. Or Diallo, or Ferrell, or Sean Bell.

But speaking of Bell, let's check in on the NY Post and how the SI/LI crew views that:
http://nypost.com/2013/11/30/former-...n-bell-horror/

Yep, it's a bunch of cops whining about how one of them got fired and some others pressured into taking early retirement over that time they got away with murder.

#liberalsformandatoryminimums

Hopefully you can realize how ****ing stupid your position is.

It's also ****ing hilarious to see liberals complaining about how stupid blaming them for this shooting is, and make no mistakes about it, it is stupid to blame them.

However, people with a longer memory remember them doing the same thing wrt Palin and Giffords in addition to a few other events and the tea party. What goes around comes around imo.

2 stupids confirmed make a right.

This is all everything is to ikes. He hates liberals because we think he(and his entire family) are dumb. It irks him every day. So here's 2 dead people, and he's straight to a DEMS DO IT TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...re-responsible

Seriously, though, ikes, let's play fair.

One difference I can spot here between your New Favorite Uncle, Rudy G, blaming this shooting on Obama and liberals blaming the NV Walmart shooting on Hannity is that Hannity actually did show a bunch of positive coverage of Bundy and anti-government rhetoric.

What comments by Holder or Obama or Di Blasio are conservatives actually angry about here?

This is the age old thing where the Negroes were happy and singing in the fields until outside agitators came along. Remember how angry the right got at Biden for saying "chains" that one time? The right places an affirmative obligation not just on black people to take oppression quietly, they also place that obligation on anyone speaking within earshot of black people to Not Mention the Racism.

Of course not. I'm just pointing out some massive hypocrisy and laughing at the absurdity of it all.

Fly is tooooo easy to send off the handle. The correct response to sane people is yeah, blaming Palin for the Gifford's shooting was really ****ing dumb.

ikes at the end of the day when you pull your kids out of school to keep them from learning that Common Core gay math, you know what the other kids are gonna say about them, right?

lol so in response fly has insulted me, my entire family, and my future children. Seems like a nerve has been plucked.

I'm sure you've reported all of my posts, ikes, per Mommy's Littlest Prince standard operating protocol. But what is your actual point, besides "DEMS DO IT TO, gotcha"?

So the race war rhetoric of Fox News and the PBA... is good? Is bad? Articulate a thesis.

We've got to dig pretty far back in the record bin, but it's all worth it to remind us of the time liberals inflicted the great injustice of calling out Sarah Palin on her derp.

#whitefeelingsmatter