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03-04-2018 , 06:16 PM
We use the term the "Greatest Generation" in Canada too, I actually didn't realize that it's primarily Americans who are thought of when that term is used. Figures.
03-04-2018 , 06:35 PM
I didn't even realize that it was an American who coined the term, I figured it was a Canadian or a Brit.
03-04-2018 , 06:53 PM
What where they called before that damn book was written?
03-04-2018 , 08:00 PM
*want no part of ww2 like cowards for years while Hitler amasses tons of power and kills/tortures millions of innocent civilians

*get attacked and still need to be drafted

*be the only people in history to use nuclear weapons killing 250k innocent people

*spend next 50 years oppressing blacks and women, raising whats possibly the only worse generation, and being generally miserable olds


Yeah thank god for that generation
03-04-2018 , 08:38 PM
Greatest generation are worse than boomers in every way, but they get a pass for WW2 participation. It boggles the mind that people itt actually believe greatest gen was somehow more progressive than boomers when it comes to civil rights.
03-04-2018 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NMcNasty
Greatest generation are worse than boomers in every way, but they get a pass for WW2 participation. It boggles the mind that people itt actually believe greatest gen was somehow more progressive than boomers when it comes to civil rights.
What people?
03-04-2018 , 08:46 PM
I'm gen X and sad to say we're not much (if any) better than boomers on average.
03-04-2018 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
What people?
people who argue civil rights stopped in 1964 when boomers were mostly too young to vote
03-04-2018 , 09:03 PM
Quote? I probably missed it, I was grunching when I jumped in (although I noticed you said "greatest gen" and I was the one who derailed this thread with that term. )

Last edited by Oroku$aki; 03-04-2018 at 09:09 PM.
03-04-2018 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
I'm gen X and sad to say we're not much (if any) better than boomers on average.
and 41% of white millennials voted Trump.

If you go greatest gen, boomers, gen-x, millennials (I think "iGen" is a bit ridiculous to use), then you probably get around 8% improvement or so with each new batch. Seems a little silly to me to single out any of the four for being either awesome or terrible.
03-04-2018 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
Quote? (I probably missed it, I was grunching when I jumped in.)
how about you just scroll up and try to figure it out
03-04-2018 , 09:12 PM
Oh the ironing, sooo, no quote?
03-04-2018 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
Oh the ironing, sooo, no quote?
Seems like you can't decide between acting like you have a point or if you're grunching and want me to read back the thread for you.
03-04-2018 , 09:26 PM
I edited post #234 a couple of minutes after you quoted it, and said that I noticed you used the term "greatest gen", and since I was the one who derailed this thread with that term it speaks to reason that you were talking about me. So quote where I said that the Greatest Generation was more progressive than boomers when it comes to civil rights.
03-04-2018 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
I noticed you used the term "greatest gen", and since I was the one who derailed this thread with that term it speaks to reason that you were talking about me.
Well it should be obvious by now that I wasn't.
03-04-2018 , 09:46 PM
Who were you talking about?
03-04-2018 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NMcNasty
how about you just scroll up and try to figure it out
The closest thing I see is Goofyballer dissing boomers, but he didn't say what you're claiming, naturally. Double check your work next time if you're gonna come at someone, or in this case, no one.
03-04-2018 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
The closest thing I see is Goofyballer dissing boomers
He explicitly brought up civil rights in the process, but whatever, I'm glad you finally got there.
03-04-2018 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NMcNasty
He explicitly brought up civil rights in the process, but whatever, I'm glad you finally got there.
Yes, I finally figured out who you were mischaracterizing, bravo for me.
03-05-2018 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Silent generation fought in WW2 largely because they had to, and brought in civil rights for the same reason (brought to national attention partly through the actions of student baby boomer demonstrators).

Baby boomers when young in the 60s fought hard and publicly for more rights and freedom for themselves, ie the poorest. When they became middle aged and turned from being net recipients of the tax system to net contributors they started voting for Reagan and Thatcher, hoping to hang onto more of their wealth.

Groups of people respond and adapt to changes in society and form trends, usually driven by self interest unfortunately, and I don't think there's much of a difference between the generations that can't be explained by this. If my generation of anti-materialist boomers were transplanted 30 years later they'd be just as Twitter and selfie-obsessed as millennials are.

Humans are quite despicable when viewed en masse, but fortunately are often wonderful individually when not subsumed by the herd.
I'd use the word 'flock' there because people want to be good, but are sheepish and the shepherds are usually despicable.

I heard something related to peoples' innate goodness even when doing something that can be bad in general. On overseas deployments to developing countries US troops are sometimes assigned to distribute food or teach English or other hearts and minds activities. The military had found that these things were not very effective at their primary objective, but kept it up because of how good it was for our troop morale.

Last edited by microbet; 03-05-2018 at 04:04 AM.
03-05-2018 , 04:55 AM
The real problem at hand is that politics is so polarized between three distinct camps (hard left, hard right, and the indifferent center who hold both sides in complete contempt) that it's impossible to get anything done because the other side sees change as a punch in their nads. The right thinks everything is attack on the moral fiber of the country and a middle finger to the constitution, the left thinks the government doesn't achieve its purpose of promoting the general welfare, and the indifferent center thinks both sides are only in it for themselves regardless of sway.

The right perceives guns to be so sacrosanct that any movement away from the status quo is an attack on their entire concept not just of government but also of god. I really think this issue is as bad as the slavery issue was in our nascent years with the obvious exception being that other people's lives aren't the subject of contention this time around.

So in summary I don't really think this time will be any different. It can't be different until conservatives come to their senses, emerge from their imbecilic 18th century way of thinking about a right to bear arms, and grow beyond their need for their glock night night blankeys.
03-05-2018 , 05:10 AM
The best part is the current interpretation of the 2A didn't come into prominence until the latter half of the 20th century.
03-05-2018 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGull
The right thinks everything is attack on the moral fiber of the country and a middle finger to the constitution,
No this is what they want you to think. They dont give two ****s about morality or the constitution. Most of the right is solely motivated by white supremacism.
03-06-2018 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by NMcNasty
and 41% of white millennials voted Trump.

If you go greatest gen, boomers, gen-x, millennials (I think "iGen" is a bit ridiculous to use), then you probably get around 8% improvement or so with each new batch. Seems a little silly to me to single out any of the four for being either awesome or terrible.
its just america and our values. we are a racist, oppressive, discriminatory, authoritarian society. always have been. the country was created so that rich white men could own slaves and pay less in taxes. and the country still serves their interests.
03-06-2018 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
The majority of persons who fought for the US in WWII were drafted.

https://www.quora.com/What-percentag...ge-volunteered

The "Greatest Generation" had to be compelled to fight. The American populace had no appetite for war at that time.
6 million volunteers is still pretty impressive.

      
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