Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Panel finds Palin abused power Panel finds Palin abused power

10-10-2008 , 10:55 PM
"Troopergate Report: Palin Abused Power
Unanimous but Contentious Vote to Release the Report to the Public
By JUSTIN ROOD and JESSICA RUTHERFORD
Oct. 10, 2008

Sarah Palin abused her power when she fired her Public Safety Commissioner this July, a state investigation has concluded.

The Alaska legislature voted today to release the 263-page report on the "Troopergate" scandal, a state kerfuffle which has come to haunt Gov. Sarah Palin's vice presidential bid. The scandal centered around her firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. Monegan and others believed Palin fired him because he refused to take action against Mike Wooten, a state trooper under him who had been involved in a messy divorce with Palin's sister, Molly."

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=6004368&page=1





Does this put the final nail in the McCain/Palin coffin?






On a related note, three cheers for America!

Hip hip

Hip hip

Hip hip
10-10-2008 , 10:58 PM
One perosn got fired some years ago, and that should be the nail in the coffin? If that was all that was needed I think we would go through 50-60 candidates until we found one we could get behind (both democrats and republicans)
10-10-2008 , 11:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bedreviter
One perosn got fired some years ago, and that should be the nail in the coffin? If that was all that was needed I think we would go through 50-60 candidates until we found one we could get behind (both democrats and republicans)
That's your take on the story? Really?
10-10-2008 , 11:03 PM
In before merge.
10-10-2008 , 11:05 PM
A story this significant isn't deserving of it's own thread?


Edit: I was actually surprised to not see a thread about it already, the news must have just got out, I just got back from town and saw the story. Felt obligated to post.
10-10-2008 , 11:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopey
That's your take on the story? Really?
I second that take.
10-10-2008 , 11:07 PM
I don't think this puts the nail in the coffin, but it's damaging for sure. Poor McCain, his judgment gone. What I wonder is, would he have had a chance if he had picked somebody who actually could have been a decent president? I'm pleased that they were not able to cover this up until after the election.
10-10-2008 , 11:08 PM
I agree, they tried to stifle the investigation but were unable to. Three cheers for America!
10-10-2008 , 11:13 PM
I did start a thread on this subject, but from a satirical angle. See "Siletto Heels..." And please, please somebody get a pic. I would but I am still in, ah, astonishment.
10-10-2008 , 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopey
That's your take on the story? Really?
My take on that story is that it is something that does not weigh much when people consider who they will vote for.

Sure, it weighs a whole lot for those who have already diecided they do not like the person, but for those who are already voting for that person and for the vast majority of "undecided" it does not weigh in much. Yes, that is my take on the story.

Same as "Harvard Graduate with straight A's" is suddenly very important for Democrats, and "Veteran who was a POW for 5 years" is important for Republicans. It is a major case for those who do not like Palin, for the rest of the people it is a very minor thing.

And Obamas church, Ayers-connection and property deal in Chicago is of very little interest for Democrats, and a major thing for Republicans.

But ok, OMG, someone somewhere got fired for something that we are not sure of the reasoning for, we should expect 100% for Obama, how can anyone ever forgive Palin for this????!!!!!
10-10-2008 , 11:37 PM
If you're an undecided voter, and you learn about this abuse of power, wouldn't you consider how much more power she could have at her disposal to abuse if she were VP, or even president?
10-10-2008 , 11:37 PM
Oh hai Bedreviter! Thanks for picking up the Ikestoys slack.
10-10-2008 , 11:43 PM
So what exactly is the penalty for a state investigation concluding a governor abused her power?

A news article?
10-10-2008 , 11:46 PM
Bed,

are you really comparing Palin breaking a state ethics law and abusing her power w/ the Ayers "connection" to Obama? Really?

Last edited by MrWookie; 10-11-2008 at 01:10 PM. Reason: Personal attack removed.
10-10-2008 , 11:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpitt398
So what exactly is the penalty for a state investigation concluding a governor abused her power?

A news article?
They found she did nothing illegal. The penalty is that she shouldn't be re-elected.
10-10-2008 , 11:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElliotR
Oh hai Bedreviter! Thanks for picking up the Ikestoys slack.
Hi whoever you are. Thanks for demeaning my views by brusing them of as someone elses, and not taking the time to explain how/why you do not see why it is worth your time to debate them in stead of ridicule me. Oh hai or something.
10-10-2008 , 11:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyedea
Bedwetter,

are you really comparing Palin breaking a state ethics law and abusing her power w/ the Ayers "connection" to Obama? Really?
If I were to vote, would it bother me more if the candidate had fired someone for not a very good reason a few years ago, or if the candidate had some ties to someone from Weather Underground?

Somehow that is very easy for me to answer, and I am pretty sure my conclusion is not the one you would prefer.
10-10-2008 , 11:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jman220
They found she did nothing illegal. The penalty is that she shouldn't be re-elected.

ok thx, didnt read the article yet.
10-10-2008 , 11:52 PM
but did you see how I called you Bedwetter?

HIGH FIVE!
10-11-2008 , 12:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyedea
but did you see how I called you Bedwetter?

HIGH FIVE!

Yeah, and because Bedreviter has a meaning in Norwegian I found it racist that you would make fun of one of our words like that.

10-11-2008 , 12:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bedreviter
One perosn got fired some years ago, and that should be the nail in the coffin? If that was all that was needed I think we would go through 50-60 candidates until we found one we could get behind (both democrats and republicans)
I HAVE found one I could get behind.

Ohhhhhh yeah.
10-11-2008 , 12:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElliotR
Oh hai Bedreviter! Thanks for picking up the Ikestoys slack.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bedreviter
Hi whoever you are. Thanks for demeaning my views by brusing them of as someone elses, and not taking the time to explain how/why you do not see why it is worth your time to debate them in stead of ridicule me. Oh hai or something.
LOLZ. Your views are self-evidently ridiculous. To wit:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bedreviter
If I were to vote, would it bother me more if the candidate had fired someone for not a very good reason a few years ago, or if the candidate had some ties to someone from Weather Underground?

Somehow that is very easy for me to answer, and I am pretty sure my conclusion is not the one you would prefer.
This is the second time ITT that you suggested that Monegan was fired "years ago". Do you actually know when he was fired? How about THIS YEAR? How about THIS JULY? So, please, where the **** do you get this "years ago" bull****?
10-11-2008 , 01:00 AM
I'm an Obama supporter and I think this is a non-issue. I really don't care about it at all, so she tried to have some guy who was fairly likely an ass to her sister fired, and when that didn't work fired his boss. Yeah it's unethical but I can't imagine it having any real impact on the election. I really don't give a crap about this petty stuff from either side, there's things that are way more important that I'm basing my vote on, and I can't really imagine anyone being swayed by this.
10-11-2008 , 01:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunkman
I'm an Obama supporter and I think this is a non-issue. I really don't care about it at all, so she tried to have some guy who was fairly likely an ass to her sister fired, and when that didn't work fired his boss. Yeah it's unethical but I can't imagine it having any real impact on the election. I really don't give a crap about this petty stuff from either side, there's things that are way more important that I'm basing my vote on, and I can't really imagine anyone being swayed by this.
+1 (except instead of obama supporter put libertarian who is rooting for obama)
10-11-2008 , 01:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunkman
I'm an Obama supporter and I think this is a non-issue. I really don't care about it at all, so she tried to have some guy who was fairly likely an ass to her sister fired, and when that didn't work fired his boss. Yeah it's unethical but I can't imagine it having any real impact on the election. I really don't give a crap about this petty stuff from either side, there's things that are way more important that I'm basing my vote on, and I can't really imagine anyone being swayed by this.
Yeah, who cares if a person in power abuses their power to enact vengeance upon those they deem worthy of it.

****, maybe McCain can drop Palin and get the animated corpse of Nixon to run with him. Afterall, why should voters care in which ways a candidate's running mate chooses to abuse the powers entrusted to them by said voters?

      
m